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Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by giancarlostoro »

pjmlp wrote: post #35
giancarlostoro wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kills me is when people say they use Chrome cause they don't trust Mozilla cause they embedded Pocket, but like Chrome is literally shoved with a million Google bits, even Chromium (the open source variant of Google Chrome which is the proprietary variant almost everyone installs) has Google crapware at a much larger scale. Mozilla's Firefox still feels like the lesser of the two evils. Edit: Added clarification…

I love how those people complain about telemetry and other stuff while most likely typing those complains from a laptop running ChromeOS.

Sadly I had hopes for ChromeOS but I'm more saddened nothing like ChromeOS has popped up.

If Mozilla teamed up with someone like Ubuntu to produce a viable alternative I'd buy into it fairly quickly honestly.

In the meantime I'm considering an iPad Pro as a "Laptop" alternative and as a way to offload apps from my phone so my phone is just that, a phone with nothing but maybe the work apps on it and texting stuff. I don't want social media in my pocket anymore.

Edit: On another note, maybe if we see more ARM laptops it may be worthwhile for a new Netbook / ARM focused distro to crop up. One thing that kills me about Chromebooks is paying a thousand dollars for decent specs but I could pay the same amount and real a laptop with a real OS on it. The main selling factor with ChromeOS for me though has always been their security model.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by Rochus »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #20
kvark wrote: post #2

That's the last call for anybody who thinks "it's good that Mozilla exists, and its mission is important, but I'm still using Chrome and derivatives". Mozilla can't exist solely because people think it has a good mission: it needs products that can pay the bills, or at least a large population of active users.

What kills me is when people say they use Chrome cause they don't trust Mozilla cause they embedded Pocket, but like Chrome is literally shoved with a million Google bits, even Chromium (the open source variant of Google Chrome which is the proprietary variant almost everyone installs) has Google crapware at a much larger scale. Mozilla's Firefox still feels like the lesser of the two evils. Edit: Added clarification…

It's a great browser, even faster than Chromium. I especially appreciate that they offer 32 bit versions for download which run on my old Linux machines just by unpacking the ZIP to some directory.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by DNied »

cameronhowe wrote: post #15

It is so refreshing to see an ethical company like mozilla when faced with financial struggle say "We at the top level have slashed our salaries to ensure we can keep paying as many contributors as possible as it is they who make our products great"

The linked article says nothing like that.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by shock »

cameronhowe wrote: post #15

It is so refreshing to see an ethical company like mozilla when faced with financial struggle say "We at the top level have slashed our salaries to ensure we can keep paying as many contributors as possible as it is they who make our products great"

I thought I missed the quote when I first read the article, but I did a search now and it came up empty.

Was the quote in the article and got taken out, or were you just being sarcastic?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by Spivak »

shock wrote: post #30

> Sadly, the changes also include a significant reduction in our workforce — approximately 250 people of exceptional professional and personal caliber who have made outstanding contributions to who we are today. To each of them, I extend my heartfelt thanks and deepest regrets that we have come to this point. This is a humbling recognition of the realities we face, and what is needed to overcome them. What a load of…

You do get that the total compensation for 250 FTE's is probably in the neighborhood of $25 million/yr. She gets paid about $1m/yr which includes performance incentives. So if she just gave up her whole salary she would only have to fire 96% of the people let go today.

C suite members raking in high salaries is the tiniest most insignificant issue when it comes to a large orgs finances. In most large orgs if C sites were paid $0 the average employee wouldn't even notice the difference.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by qaq »

galacticdessert wrote: post #10
s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

Fighting racism and fighting for human rights is something that happens to be important when your focus is not only making profit

Look at the leadership team of mozilla corp to easily guess if the statement is fluff or they actually mean it.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by ihsw »

fsflover wrote: post #6
s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

What's wrong with being "a political activist group"?

It's a waste of money.
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