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Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

#21
"New focus on economics": It was bad enough seeing terrible clickbait in the "Recommended by Pocket" section displayed on every new tab. Now I have to go into settings to opt-out of Sponsored Stories so I don't have to see ads for Honey.

All to fund the so-called "internet activist movement"?

I just want a web browser, not an ideology.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

#22
Thought it would be another political activism post, turns out to be a dressed-up corporate layoff announcement:

> Sadly, the changes also include a significant reduction in our workforce — approximately 250 people of exceptional professional and personal caliber who have made outstanding contributions to who we are today.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

Fighting racism and fighting for human rights is something that happens to be important when your focus is not only making profit

how can they fight for racism if their company is composed only of white people? in a country full of diversity

(without counting interns)

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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post #2

That's the last call for anybody who thinks "it's good that Mozilla exists, and its mission is important, but I'm still using Chrome and derivatives". Mozilla can't exist solely because people think it has a good mission: it needs products that can pay the bills, or at least a large population of active users.

Also, please make a monthly donation to Mozilla if you can. You will contribute to saving the world. https://donate.mozilla.org/

I wonder if it would work for companies/services to offer perks to their users in exchange for donation to Mozilla? It's a weak example but if, for a $50 donation, you could get an icon on your HN profile -- and that shows up with your comments -- that you're a financial supporter of Mozilla that might drive donations. Granted, HN is a pretty small community but if, say, Facebook offered a perk level for supporting Mozilla it might get the network effect going perhaps.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

#26
For all it's flaws, and with the exception of a brief 18 month stint, I've been a dedicated Firefox user since 2004. I sincerely hope that this project finds its new groove and continues to provide a viable alternative to Chromium. The world truly needs it.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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post #2

That's the last call for anybody who thinks "it's good that Mozilla exists, and its mission is important, but I'm still using Chrome and derivatives". Mozilla can't exist solely because people think it has a good mission: it needs products that can pay the bills, or at least a large population of active users.

What kills me is when people say they use Chrome cause they don't trust Mozilla cause they embedded Pocket, but like Chrome is literally shoved with a million Google bits, even Chromium (the open source variant of Google Chrome which is the proprietary variant almost everyone installs) has Google crapware at a much larger scale. Mozilla's Firefox still feels like the lesser of the two evils. Edit: Added clarification…

Well i think Mozilla made very clear in the past that they did all they can to avoid Pocket to be evasive, and they made it to respect your privacy, in case you choose to use it. Of course you can always turn it off on your Firefox and never come across it again.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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250 people, roughly 25% of the company, were laid off today. This is on top of the 70 laid off in January (discussion of that at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22057737 )

Why Mozilla has almost 1,000 employees blows my mind. Isn't this an project for an open source web browser?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fighting racism and fighting for human rights is something that happens to be important when your focus is not only making profit

God forbid they might think about concentrating solely on making the best browser eh? Where would that end!

People have incentives. Google employees likely are there to have the experience on their resume and monetize later. Mozilla people work for a non profit, hence they are probably motivated by social activism rather than money or fame.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

#30
> Sadly, the changes also include a significant reduction in our workforce — approximately 250 people of exceptional professional and personal caliber who have made outstanding contributions to who we are today. To each of them, I extend my heartfelt thanks and deepest regrets that we have come to this point. This is a humbling recognition of the realities we face, and what is needed to overcome them.

What a load of bull! How many people did she save from firing by taking a pay cut? I agree that it would have been an insignificant number of the 250 people fired, but it would have made a difference in the life of the employees not fired and it would have given meaning to her words.

Words are extremely cheap (including the ones I'm writing right now). Statements only become principles when they imply a personal cost, otherwise they are just ideas.

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