Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products • Hacker News Board

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by stomatomot » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

+1, they betrayed us many times

forced/uninstallable addons

they sold us to google

they sold us to pocket

they sold us to promote their political views

mozilla should stick to open and free software and stick to their non-profit promise

why "flagged", is there some sort of AI that automatically detect when someone says something negative about mozilla?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by ecmascript » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

I could see this coming a mile away and have written about it several times on HN, last 6 months ago [1].

Due to Mozillas woke-ness, focus has shifted from the product which actually is great to worthless endeavors like pushing woke politics.

This made their product offerings hurt and now they have to cut jobs. I use Brave as my main browser today and Firefox is just not that relevant anymore due to bad user numbers. It's barely even worth it to test your sites in Firefox anymore.

I hope they will stop with the woke bullshit and start getting actual value to users out there instead. I believe it's that or they will cease to exist in time. No one will use your product just because you are woke.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22298296

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by growlist » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

Are we now stuck with this vacuous corporate virtue signalling forever, or just until the globalist/leftist/whatever-ists finally achieve the absolute tyranny they seem to be seeking?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by simion314 » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #6

s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

What's wrong with being "a political activist group"?

As we can see some racists will use Chrome instead of Firefox.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by cameronhowe » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

It is so refreshing to see an ethical company like mozilla when faced with financial struggle say "We at the top level have slashed our salaries to ensure we can keep paying as many contributors as possible as it is they who make our products great"

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by growlist » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

galacticdessert wrote: post #10

s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

Fighting racism and fighting for human rights is something that happens to be important when your focus is not only making profit

God forbid they might think about concentrating solely on making the best browser eh? Where would that end!

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by henriquez » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

s9w wrote: post #3

Seeing Mozilla burn fills my heart with joy. Maybe they will be forced to be an actual software dev company instead of a political activist group. But even in this post they had to shove in 'racism' in the headline.

That seems a little extreme. You'd prefer Google/Chromium to be a complete monopoly because you don't like the political views of the company that develops Firefox?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by justapassenger » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

This announcement is very strong in corporate speak. Main takeaway is that they’re out of money and need to are going to focus on making money?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by kstenerud » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

This has wayyy too much corporate doublespeak in it. I try not to be negative on companies with a good mission, but this fluff-filled announcement tells my spidey senses that they're about to do something that people won't like.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Post by giancarlostoro » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

kvark wrote: post #2

That's the last call for anybody who thinks "it's good that Mozilla exists, and its mission is important, but I'm still using Chrome and derivatives". Mozilla can't exist solely because people think it has a good mission: it needs products that can pay the bills, or at least a large population of active users.

What kills me is when people say they use Chrome cause they don't trust Mozilla cause they embedded Pocket, but like Chrome is literally shoved with a million Google bits, even Chromium (the open source variant of Google Chrome which is the proprietary variant almost everyone installs) has Google crapware at a much larger scale. Mozilla's Firefox still feels like the lesser of the two evils.

Edit: Added clarification about Chromium in case someone doesn't know the difference between Chromium (open source) vs Google Chrome (proprietary).