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Because it doesn't comply with local laws. What law does tiktok not comply with?
Which local Chinese law is FB not complying with?
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no general First Amendment right to free speech for foreign nationals not physically present in the US.
The First Amendment prohibits laws abridging free speech. There is no limit placed on who is entitled to that right.
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Implement rules that everyone has to follow. A good regulatory privacy framework instead of banning apps from a economic rival.
How would that enforce China to play by the rules?
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no general First Amendment right to free speech for foreign nationals not physically present in the US.
The First Amendment prohibits laws abridging free speech. There is no limit placed on who is entitled to that right.
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#245So if the problem is that TikTok is gathering too much invasive data on US citizens (and supposedly siphoning it to China), and their defence is basically "So what, it's legal and everyone else is doing it too!", then isn't the obvious solution making actual digital privacy legislation that would make such data vacuuming illegal? That would solve the problem and make the American market a fair playing field rather th…
That is not the problem. I'm not a US citizen, but let's pretend I am; as a normal citizen (ie, not a politician or high profile important person) would I be more concerned about my personal data being sent to a foreign country who doesn't know me, my family, my job, and very likely will never give a damn about what i think, or rather my own government who has all interests to know what I think, especially during pro…
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The USA has been the sole military superpower for 30 years now, with more power than the rest of the world combined. If they wanted global dominance, they'd already have it long ago.
"Plans for global dominance" can mean more than just achieving it. One can also plan to maintain it or grow it. Perhaps it's just semantics but an important distinction. In this particular case China's plan to achieve global dominance is in stark opposition to the US's plan to maintain global dominance.
I really don't know what you're trying to say. If the USA achieved global dominance, there would be no China. There would only be the USA. Globally. Obviously, that's not the case.
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#247HFGLWT!
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#248Imagine US companies suing China for not allowing them to operate there. People would say "China can decide what they want to allow". Well if China can decide (which they did first) two can play this game. Also TikTok says this ban is baseless. If USA's ban of TikTok is baseless, what base does China have for banning everything?
Yes, China does censor sites and apps. But is it really good to censor sites and apps just like they do? Aren't we better than that? Do we want anyone having that sort of power?
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#249So if the problem is that TikTok is gathering too much invasive data on US citizens (and supposedly siphoning it to China), and their defence is basically "So what, it's legal and everyone else is doing it too!", then isn't the obvious solution making actual digital privacy legislation that would make such data vacuuming illegal? That would solve the problem and make the American market a fair playing field rather th…
Ah interesting, I think I remember Congress asking the tech CEOs if China stole data from the us shortly before the tik tok announcement, I wonder if there's a connection there. But we use a ton of Chinese tech software and hardware outside of Tiktok, are they gonna ban them all?
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IMHO TikTok being owned by the CCP now is a clear and present danger to all Americans using the app. You make some fair points, but there is no way that I would trust a government agency to actually do code reviews and verify that a company isn't doing something wrong. I feel increasingly unsafe because this app is being operated by a company that is beyond extradition with the USA. So if they ARE busted for doing ba…
It's owned by ByteDance, not the CPC.
> In addition, ByteDance on April 25, 2019, signed a strategic cooperation agreement with the Ministry of Public Security's Press and Publicity Bureau (公安部新聞宣傳局) in Beijing. The agreement was billed as "aiming to give full play to the professional technology and platform advantages of Toutiao and Tiktok in big data analysis," strengthen the creation and production of "public security new media works," boost "network influence and online discourse power," and enhance "public security propaganda, guidance, influence, and credibility," among other aspects.