> the Sarawak government designated it as a “protected geographical indicator,” decreeing that true kek lapis Sarawak can only be made within state borders I love stuff like this... a governmental body’s deliberate grab for extra- territorial authority. We have similar things in Italy (D.O.C.: Denominazione di Origine Controllata , meaning “Name with a Controlled Origin”) but at least that’s substantiated by a E.U.-l…
The mesmerizing geometry of Malaysia’s most complex cakes
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#13> the Sarawak government designated it as a “protected geographical indicator,” decreeing that true kek lapis Sarawak can only be made within state borders I love stuff like this... a governmental body’s deliberate grab for extra- territorial authority. We have similar things in Italy (D.O.C.: Denominazione di Origine Controllata , meaning “Name with a Controlled Origin”) but at least that’s substantiated by a E.U.-l…
The geographical indication in the EU is used to protect a product's name/brand, not stop it from being produced outside that area. I can make Aceto Balsamico in my basement the traditional way (I'd need a basement first), and can sell it, but not call Aceto Balsamico.
And this is exactly what happens in Italy, too; I did my apprenticeship there and ran a Kitchen in Emilia Romanga, where quite honestly it seems everything that comes out of there is protected (restricted is more like it) with that seal.
However, after a few months I got invited to what can be best described as an underground Farmer's Market to Industry only guests that moves around people's farms/properties where they sell their products, be it Aceto, or Parmigiano, Culatello, Lambrusco etc... as a white label product sold strictly for 'personal use' only, but a poorly kept secret was that it was possible it also somehow found its way to the tables of certain restaurants as an accompaniment to an apperativo or as an anti-pasti. They're amazing products, made by artisans with great care, but they simply lacked a that designation as they were done in such small batches that even considering acquiring it would set them back economically.
It was entirely like a faire with karaoke and music and dancing as well as make-shift stalls for these kind of products and they made food, and since it was mainly made up of a curated list of local chefs and farmers everything was amazing, it was the one of the highlights of my career to have been allowed to join and I wish I could have gone more often but work restricted me from going as it was mainly held during service hours and only announced a few days ahead of the event.
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#14> the Sarawak government designated it as a “protected geographical indicator,” decreeing that true kek lapis Sarawak can only be made within state borders I love stuff like this... a governmental body’s deliberate grab for extra- territorial authority. We have similar things in Italy (D.O.C.: Denominazione di Origine Controllata , meaning “Name with a Controlled Origin”) but at least that’s substantiated by a E.U.-l…
The idea that the Italian protected designation is somehow more "legitimate" than the Malaysian one is nothing but Eurocentrism. The Malaysian government can enforce these designations the same way that any other entity can... as a stipulation of trade agreements. If your country doesn't respect Malaysia's designations, then perhaps Malaysia won't let you sell your products in Malaysia.
My issue is with the idea of a government blessing itself with powers beyond its border by specifically saying that only something within its borders is legitimate outside of them, which is... just bizarre, in absence of higher authorities and accords.
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#15> the Sarawak government designated it as a “protected geographical indicator,” decreeing that true kek lapis Sarawak can only be made within state borders I love stuff like this... a governmental body’s deliberate grab for extra- territorial authority. We have similar things in Italy (D.O.C.: Denominazione di Origine Controllata , meaning “Name with a Controlled Origin”) but at least that’s substantiated by a E.U.-l…
The geographical indication in the EU is used to protect a product's name/brand, not stop it from being produced outside that area. I can make Aceto Balsamico in my basement the traditional way (I'd need a basement first), and can sell it, but not call Aceto Balsamico.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that the Italian protected designation is somehow more "legitimate" than the Malaysian one is nothing but Eurocentrism. The Malaysian government can enforce these designations the same way that any other entity can... as a stipulation of trade agreements. If your country doesn't respect Malaysia's designations, then perhaps Malaysia won't let you sell your products in Malaysia.
I’m not saying that the European stipulation has more valence than the Malaysian one. I’m saying they’re equally unfounded, though one is blessed with a greater consumer base than the other they’re equally predicated on the same principle. My issue is with the idea of a government blessing itself with powers beyond its border by specifically saying that only something within its borders is legitimate outside of them,…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t...
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not saying that the European stipulation has more valence than the Malaysian one. I’m saying they’re equally unfounded, though one is blessed with a greater consumer base than the other they’re equally predicated on the same principle. My issue is with the idea of a government blessing itself with powers beyond its border by specifically saying that only something within its borders is legitimate outside of them,…
EU regulations on geographical indications only have effect outside the EU where there are bilateral agreements with some countries that cover some areas (e.g. wine and spirits): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t...
It’s the accords and the relationship between entities of various kinds (some of them sovereign, some of them not) which gives or denies this stipulation any power whatsoever.
To wit: the Sarawak government is entirely free to impound cake blessed with the hallowed name if it is made in the state of Selangor and shipped to within Sarawak, but decrying Selangor-produced cake sold in Kelantan is entirely outside the scope of its power because all of that occurs beyond its borders, and is therefore ineffective unless there is a national government and/or trade agreements that overarch all the territories. It’s exactly the same for national, EU, and international trade agreements.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not saying that the European stipulation has more valence than the Malaysian one. I’m saying they’re equally unfounded, though one is blessed with a greater consumer base than the other they’re equally predicated on the same principle. My issue is with the idea of a government blessing itself with powers beyond its border by specifically saying that only something within its borders is legitimate outside of them,…
EU regulations on geographical indications only have effect outside the EU where there are bilateral agreements with some countries that cover some areas (e.g. wine and spirits): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t...
For instance, Australia and Europe currently don't have a full free-trade agreement. So you can walk into your local supermarket and buy something labelled 'Australian Feta Cheese'.
However, when that same product is sold in South Korea it has to be relabelled as 'Australian White Cheese', because South Korea has an agreement with Europe that Feta is a protected term.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/cheese-blue-australi...
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#19These are beautiful. I worked in a Malaysian restaurant as a young adult and unfortunately they didn't serve cakes. I'm a little saddened to think I may never get to experience one.
When Covid calms down, Sarawak is a wonderful place to visit.
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#20> the Sarawak government designated it as a “protected geographical indicator,” decreeing that true kek lapis Sarawak can only be made within state borders I love stuff like this... a governmental body’s deliberate grab for extra- territorial authority. We have similar things in Italy (D.O.C.: Denominazione di Origine Controllata , meaning “Name with a Controlled Origin”) but at least that’s substantiated by a E.U.-l…