EPA to Rescind Methane Regulations for Oil and Gas

Post by JoshTriplett » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 2:38 AM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #196

JoshTriplett wrote: post #166

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There's a huge difference between controlling what people do on their own land, and controlling how people affect the broader ecosystem. Burning oil or gas and affecting the atmosphere for everyone is a much larger-scale issue than a local wetland. (And if you're told you can't turn a swamp into a field, for example, you also ought to get paid for effectively having to maintain a public resource.)

Why should the public have to pay you if you bought a farm knowing a lot of it wasn't usable as a farm?

Post by dang » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 4:34 AM UTC

natch wrote: post #202

dang wrote: post #194

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The comment was generic religious/political flamebait and unsubstantive. I'm not criticizing you or your good intentions, just explaining how it externally appears from an HN moderation point of view. Any place the phrase "calling out" appears, it's likely that the desired spirit of this site (i.e. intellectual curiosity) has been left behind. That phrase is the flagship of internet indignation, which is not compatib…

Thank you for the reply. Good points, and the comments you linked really help as well.

Post by nicetryguy » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 6:22 AM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #147

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Get rested and get ready, under either Trump or Biden, the level of unrest and discontent will be much higher than it was. We will win eventually, but it will look like a slow incremental climb with sudden set backs, followed by bursts of energy and further set backs and crises, until suddenly and shockingly we take power. That's how it always goes.

Violence including riots and political assassinations have massively decreased from the 1960s and 1970s and overall life satisfaction has increased. I realize a revolutionary tone is in the current zeitgeist but it's unlikely to persist if Biden wins. Bernie's hilariously one sided defeat is perhaps the best indicator that most people don't agree with a radical future for the US.

Post by HumblyTossed » Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 4:50 PM UTC

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It’s very hard to understand why the current administration has such an urge to roll back environmental regulations. I grew up in a time when rivers were red or green depending on what type of leather the factory upstream was processing at the time. The only fish you could see were dead. Breathing in cities was hard. Environmental regulation is a big success story that improved the lives of countless people while com…

Post by amluto » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 2:55 AM UTC

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I would believe that the costs of further clean air improvement are high as measured by annoyance to established people, but not necessarily cost. Where I live, the following would help particulate pollution: - Eliminating existing grandfathered-in wood burning fireplaces. Costs almost nothing as measured by dollars. - Emission controls on restaurant exhaust. This is currently required only for restaurants that chat-…

Where I live, the vast majority of pollution comes from shipping, not residential or light commercial uses. We have arguably the worst traffic in the U.S. in LA, but driving or other individual consumer activities is a drop in the bucket compared the the ecological scarring diesel trucks, LAX and especially the port of LA have done and will continue to do to the region for the foreseeable future, until we change how…