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The Three Bay Areas (2017)

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Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

#21
There are two reasons I'm guessing the author doesn't see himself as part of the working class. 1. He doesn't make fun of the working class like he does to the other two. Either because he doesn't know them well enough to do so, or because he doesn't want to insult them. 2. The UAW locals in the Bay Area represent graduate students, postdocs, and nonprofit workers. No one in "service jobs or government jobs" or "nurses, teachers or craftsmen."

Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

#23
I'd argue that Marin isn't like these stereotypes at all.

Marin is its own separate entity. The North part of the county thinks the south part of the county is pretentious. The South part of the county thinks the north is full of unwashed scum.

Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

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post #19

> You are utterly certain that you are not racist, even though your friend circle is exclusively white, Asian or hapa. I love how asians are the new whites. For all its worship of success, Americans hate success like no other.

Loosely quoted by Iris Chang in "The Chinese in America", when times are good Asians are glorified for being the "model minority" and have all the privilege that Whites have, and vilified as foreigners when times are bad. Given the current political climate I'm worried we're swinging towards the latter.

It's awkward. I feel I'm considered a minority when it doesn't matter much (e.g., Asian cast members in a movie) but ignored when it does matter (e.g., in the conversation of racial equality, acknowledgement of different ideas and culture, political representation). My family's history is not in the books how difficult it was to even get here (many people died escaping on boats), and started here from nothing in a foreign land where people think your culture is weird. And it's awkward to speak up about those types of things because at least we aren't getting shot up on the streets (yet).

With US and China going into a cold war too, it gets more awkward, and that's even more difficult to speak up about since they're public enemy #1 here.

Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

#25

This article is bullshit. A house in Potrero for under two million?

A quick Zillow search shows multiple places in Potrero that are for sale and under $2M right now. I've been casually watching the area for most of the year and there's usually a place or two available in the $1.3-$2M range at any given time.

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Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loosely quoted by Iris Chang in "The Chinese in America", when times are good Asians are glorified for being the "model minority" and have all the privilege that Whites have, and vilified as foreigners when times are bad. Given the current political climate I'm worried we're swinging towards the latter.

It's awkward. I feel I'm considered a minority when it doesn't matter much (e.g., Asian cast members in a movie) but ignored when it does matter (e.g., in the conversation of racial equality, acknowledgement of different ideas and culture, political representation). My family's history is not in the books how difficult it was to even get here (many people died escaping on boats), and started here from nothing in a fo…

It'll become more obvious when Asians distinguish themselves by advertising their non-Chineseness as a defensive maneuver.

Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loosely quoted by Iris Chang in "The Chinese in America", when times are good Asians are glorified for being the "model minority" and have all the privilege that Whites have, and vilified as foreigners when times are bad. Given the current political climate I'm worried we're swinging towards the latter.

It's awkward. I feel I'm considered a minority when it doesn't matter much (e.g., Asian cast members in a movie) but ignored when it does matter (e.g., in the conversation of racial equality, acknowledgement of different ideas and culture, political representation). My family's history is not in the books how difficult it was to even get here (many people died escaping on boats), and started here from nothing in a fo…

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Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article isn't at all about three geographical bay areas, it's about three socioeconomic bay areas. I see elements of all three (but mostly the third) in my neighborhood in SF.

The article, of course, completely misses the stereotypes of people in the Peninsula and South Bay. I suspect it's because the author is a 20something who doesn't go anywhere the BART won't take him.

By the way, what are the peninsula stereotypes? I know a few people in redwood but it seems mostly like the same stereotypes, but I really dont know that much about the area.

Re: The Three Bay Areas (2017)

#29

Being from the south, I couldn't relate to anything in this article but I really enjoyed reading it. The author has a good writing style. Is this really the trichotomy of the Bay area? I thought it was interesting that none of these groups are turned out to be Trump supporters. I think it would be fun to contrast this mode of thought with the thought of people in flyover territory, as was done with these groups.

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