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The Clean Network – United States Department of State

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Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

#21

The intention of cutting out bad actors seems to be in the right place, but using "Clean" for the terminology is really unnecessarily inflammatory.

I'd add that the collection of telecom companies at the bottom of the page is grossly misleading. It makes them appear as signatories or as if they're following America's lead.

Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

#22
post #16

Has anyone published the evidence of Huawei being an "arm of the PRC surveillance state"? I've seen a lot of claims and a lot of out-of-court-settled lawsuits, but nothing really showing that they're using their devices or software infrastructure for surveillance.

Here is some https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xi...

Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

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post #17
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully, none of this will be implemented and we can all forget Mike Pompeo exists in 6 months.

84 more days till election... fingers & toes crossed

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Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

#24

It looks like we are breaking the internet up along the lines of political boundaries. The US will have one internet, the EU another, China yet another... Hopefully the pendulum will swing back in the other direction soon...

it swings back when we invent new protocols - which is to say it never swings back. From traditional publishing to radio to tv to the internet to gentrification once the bastards get control you gotta make the next thing.

Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

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post #16

Has anyone published the evidence of Huawei being an "arm of the PRC surveillance state"? I've seen a lot of claims and a lot of out-of-court-settled lawsuits, but nothing really showing that they're using their devices or software infrastructure for surveillance.

The connection is made from:

1. The Chinese National Intelligence Law requiring every citizen to "intelligence work".

2. Huawei had the potential to reach mass adoption outside of China.

3. Huawei is a company deeply connected to the PLA.

4. Therefore Huawei, not only is its HQ required to spy for China, but that it is very likely to work with the PLA to spy for China.

[1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Law

[2]. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/08/huawei-staff-and-chinese-mil...

Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

#29
The question I think this is an answer to is how you can have a reasonable expectation of freedom and privacy while sharing an internet with a CCP who has militarized their technology sector as a means to facilitate colonial expansion.

I'm no fan of anyone involved, but we should accept that the Internet as we may have known it has been compromised by exogenous governance structures and their gatekeepers in service of non- and even anti-internet agendas, and it can no longer seriously be considered a free territory for divergence and innovation. The U.S. and their Clean network seems naive in a way, but in this case, I don't object because I think it is the devil we know.

Re: The Clean Network – United States Department of State

#30
If they weren't serious about this claptrap it would be downright hilarious. "Clean" means nothing, other than "Approved by us" which of course can mean anything they want, including shutting down anything they disagree with even internally, and changing day by day. In practicality there isn't much they can do legally to make any of this actually exist.
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