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Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#41
post #5

The text uses the words "culture", "human history", and "the world/our world". But reading the list of sources included, it seems to mean "the English culture" of US + UK. That's a bit of a shame IMHO.

When saw that my repo got pulled, I couldn't help wonder what value the future archeologists will put on a Twitch chatbot that distribute cookies.

However my IRC client may still be useful by then

Relevant xkcd : https://xkcd.com/1782/

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#42
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Haskell (leading FP language) Scala is the leading FP language (thanks to Spark, Kafka, Akka, and other massive projects). And TIOBE puts Scheme and Lisp ahead of Haskell. And Emacs Lisp probably has more installs than GHC.

Probably depends on the definition of leading; I'd guess that Haskell is probably used more than any other (Turing-complete, to exclude Gallina, etc.) functional language within programming language research, but you're right that in terms of usage in industry etc. Scala is probably on top.

> I'd guess

Why would you guess?

> functional language within programming language research

Why is this [more] important? Why not e.g. Erlang which almost certainly pumps more bits per day than Haskell.

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#44
post #5

The text uses the words "culture", "human history", and "the world/our world". But reading the list of sources included, it seems to mean "the English culture" of US + UK. That's a bit of a shame IMHO.

Given there are other README files covering a number of other major languages, I think you might be a little harsh. That file is really only meant to cover the Anglophone world and even then is only an initial compilation.

The tech tree isn't translated as far as I can tell. Though my point was that the projects talks in a universal way but the listed sources are really from one cultural group. The translated files are translations of the file "Guide To the GitHub Code Vault" (GUIDE.md), I don't think that's really relevant here.

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#46
post #24

> We believe women's unique role in founding and shaping computing and technology deserves its own section. Hummm, ok, what about men's role ? One of the biggest complain women make, is the world keeps reminding them that they are a women. Well this is one of them

That is some classic feminist irony right there. If I were a woman, I would hate that shit but it seems like most people who comes up with and support ideas like this are either too stupid or too ignorant to care.

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#47
post #24

> We believe women's unique role in founding and shaping computing and technology deserves its own section. Hummm, ok, what about men's role ? One of the biggest complain women make, is the world keeps reminding them that they are a women. Well this is one of them

It's kind of counter intuitive, but writing about women's role in computing directly sheds light on men's role in the same. It is one of those sentences, where what is not said is just as important.

> We believe women's unique role in founding and shaping computing and technology deserves its own section.

> And men's role doesn't deserve a section, because literally everything else you read about was done by them.

I too think, the on-the-nose-ness of communicating women's roles here, is annoying to both men and women of 2020. However, this document is written with societal-recovery in mind. In that case, I would rather it be explicitly mentioned that women deserve just as relevant a role in tech development, lest some post-apocalyptic male-supremacist historian notice that almost everything important in tech was invented by men and postulate that, 'Tech should be the domain of men and only men.'

I do hope they also talk about the internal culture of nerds, societal-outcasts and less-than-macho men, that shaped tech as we know it. I don't think the uniqueness of nerdy tech culture is explored enough.

Better safe than sorry.

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#48
post #5

The text uses the words "culture", "human history", and "the world/our world". But reading the list of sources included, it seems to mean "the English culture" of US + UK. That's a bit of a shame IMHO.

I am assuming, based on the fact that it's a project by an American company, that this is largely being done by functionally monolingual English speakers. I wouldn't want them to attempt to speak for other cultures. And I wouldn't want to shame them for not attempting to speak for others. It's a bit unfortunate that they use the word "human" so expansively when the scope is so limited, it's true. But it's a new proje…

I'm all for iterative work. I'm just pointing an issue in the current state of this project. It's a common behaviour from huge and global US companies (GitHub IS huge and global) to kind of forget that other cultural groups exist, I'm used to it. It's a bit dishonest in this specific case because they present the project as a "humanity preservation project".

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#49
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was also surprised they picked "Programming Rust" over "The Rust Programming Language" book.

I’m sure Steve Klabnik will eat me alive, but having read both I think it’s the better book!

Nah I think it’s also a good book, and am glad that both exist! For many people, it will be the better book.

Re: GitHub Arctic Code Vault: Tech Tree

#50
post #47
post #24

> We believe women's unique role in founding and shaping computing and technology deserves its own section. Hummm, ok, what about men's role ? One of the biggest complain women make, is the world keeps reminding them that they are a women. Well this is one of them

It's kind of counter intuitive, but writing about women's role in computing directly sheds light on men's role in the same. It is one of those sentences, where what is not said is just as important. > We believe women's unique role in founding and shaping computing and technology deserves its own section. > And men's role doesn't deserve a section, because literally everything else you read about was done by them . I…

> And men's role doesn't deserve a section, because literally everything else you read about was done by them.

I'm not sure why anyone would assume men did all the work, until some patronising head pat of a section is added to show that "women do things too".

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