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90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by perl4ever »

bigcorp-slave wrote: post #41
ggggtez wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to point out that you are data-illiterate here. Here is an alternate explanation: Very few people search for 19th century political philosphies on Google, compared to the number of people who search for "hangover". Therefore all it takes is 1 news article, interview, book, movie, etc to cause people to do a quick search and find out what a word means. So called "using google as a dictionary" is all you are s…

This is a pretty hostile post that looks like it violates site guidelines to me. Can you express your point civilly?

I don't think the insults obscure the point. I may be "data illiterate" too but it sounds plausible.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by apatters »

rossdavidh wrote: post #24

"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Just flag the article and be done with it. My tolerance for clickbait headlines has gone to zero during this pandemic.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by autora »

abraxas wrote: post #57
Barrin92 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?". Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. I get that people always tend to think their moment in history is particularly special, but I'm just gonna say if the black death didn't do something in this won't either

I'm not sure bars existed in the times of Black Death. I learned recently that a sit down restaurant with a menu is a relatively new thing. Two hundred years or so. Plus minus a few decades. Your point still stands though. I just thought I would point that out as I found it somewhat interesting because for a long time I had assumed that restaurant business was much older than that.

>I'm not sure bars existed in the times of Black Death

depends what you mean by a bar?

In the UK, taverns certainly existed prior to the Black Death (1346 – 1353). For instance:

> Established in the 13th Century, The White Hart Inn on Drury Lane claims to be London’s oldest pub. Historical records show its first license was granted as early as 1216

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2017/10/the-15-oldest-pubs...

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

rossdavidh wrote: post #24

"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

I think it's a reasonable assumption that any existing trends that are accelerated by covid will be fairly sticky.

An obvious example in the UK is people switching to grocery delivery. Some people will switch back but a lot will continue because the virus helped them past whatever inertia was holding them back before.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by bawolff »

ceejayoz wrote: post #56
Barrin92 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?". Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. I get that people always tend to think their moment in history is particularly special, but I'm just gonna say if the black death didn't do something in this won't either

> Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. Most of those thousands of years we had no clue such things could spread diseases.

We might not have known the specifics however I'm pretty sure we have known for a long time that hanging around sick people makes you sick.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by tdeck »

Jedd wrote: post #34
rossdavidh wrote: post #24

"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Your point is true for some, but I dispute 'all values of x'. Post-pandemic, yes, some items from that page are going to return to pre-pandemic numbers, I'm sure - hangover, restaurant, ticket, etc. But for people who've discovered that stuff they grow at home - from herbs on the balcony to tomatoes in the yard - taste much better, are unlikely to just forget that. Similarly people discovering this year that they enj…

I don't know. I just listened to this great podcast [1] about victory gardens during WW1 and WW2. Many of them were set up all across the US, but after the war ended people pretty much abandoned them. Turns out growing food is hard work and most people don't want to do it, even as a supplement.

That said I'm definitely making it a goal to never buy green onions again - it's so easy to regrow them.

[1]: https://gastropod.com/dig-for-victory/

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by 7leafer »

7leafer wrote: post #16

covid-19 has changed the ability to tell truth from lies in 90% of world's population for good, this one is for sure.

And I fucking despise you, downvoting cowards :) Enjoy your little ridiculous power to make truth look bad in the eyes of the same moronic kin as you.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Post by mathw »

choward wrote: post #51
Barrin92 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?". Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. I get that people always tend to think their moment in history is particularly special, but I'm just gonna say if the black death didn't do something in this won't either

> Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?". I agree. Do people think it's really a good idea to always be coddling your immune system? If this were to happen, the next pandemic will probably be far worse. Just saw a study that says that having the cold recently could help your immune system fight covid-19. Of course I don't know how a…

There is some indication that exposure to some other coronaviruses may improve immune response to the pandemic one, but I think it's still a bit vague and undefined. Since there are coronaviruses in circulation which cause colds, this is possibly true.

It's not something to base public health policy around though!

You are certainly right that we lack a lot of understanding, including about various kinds of immune response to the virus which is critical to developing an effective vaccine. The level of scientific activity around this one virus is utterly phenomenal though. I'd like to think this is going to be a defining moment for human medicine, but I fear it might turn out otherwise.

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