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Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

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Re: Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

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Post by toxik »

shgidi wrote: post #227
mindfulhack wrote: post #213

If you're feeling despair, there are real things that you can do. I do one thing that makes me proud every day. I run an obfs4 Tor bridge on an old Linux Mint box that's just sitting around in my home.* The bare minimum thing that Chinese and any other country's citizens need is information, and freedom of information. This is where tech truly, truly helps. [*] Yes, they may first need to connect to a working VPN, bu…

How is it useful? (Sorry for my ignorance)

I am more worried being implicated with distribution of child pornography. The government is watching what comes through the pipes, and it’s your name on the pipe.

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Post by KMag »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #87
khuey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really shouldn't. She's alleged to have committed bank fraud against American banks. Bank fraud is a crime everywhere.

She's alleged to have been an officer in a company that disobeyed American prohibitions on trade with Iran. Calling it "bank fraud" is just a way of avoiding the question of what she did that was wrong. Who's arresting Anish Kapoor and his co-conspirators for committing fraud against Stuart Semple?

I haven't read the indictment, but isn't the allegation that she's an officer of a firm that exported restricted US-made HP telcom equipment under agreement with the US government not to share that equipment with Iran, and used a shell company in HK to transfer that equipment to Iran? My understanding is they snapped her up on the money side of the transaction because her hands were more directly there and that part is easier to trace. She needed to perform banking fraud in the US in order to make payment in the US for the US-made equipment. I believe the allegation is that she knowingly flat-out lied to HSBC about the nature of the HK shell company in order to get HSBC to complete the payment in the U.S. At least, that's my understanding. Am I missing something?

It's not like she was simply on vacation buying tourist kitsch in Tehran or selling Hwawei equipment to Iranian companies. I believe the allegation is that both the equipment export and the payment sides of the transactions touched US soil and violated US law.

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kenneth wrote: post #197

As an expat living in Hong Kong, I've noticed a clear change of mood since the ramming-through of the National Security Law last month. Protests have all but died, and people are genuinely aware of having lost their relative freedoms of speech and assembly. Businesses on the "yellow" (pro-protest) side are distancing themselves from their support of the movement. Politicians are quitting opposition parties because th…

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est wrote: post #217
jariel wrote: post #121

We should immediately end any special relation we have and apply PRC rules. China uses HK to access world markets, to launder their money etc. - ending that ability would really hurt them a lot. World nations have no qualms investing in HK entities, for PRC entities it's just a world of confusion. HK is PRC so no more special privileges.

> China uses HK to access world markets, to launder their money etc. - ending that ability would really hurt them a lot. On the contrary. https://imgur.com/gallery/WFl43ZX The world is benefiting from HK more than China.

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Post by dumb1224 »

mindfulhack wrote: post #213

If you're feeling despair, there are real things that you can do. I do one thing that makes me proud every day. I run an obfs4 Tor bridge on an old Linux Mint box that's just sitting around in my home.* The bare minimum thing that Chinese and any other country's citizens need is information, and freedom of information. This is where tech truly, truly helps. [*] Yes, they may first need to connect to a working VPN, bu…

There are substantial number of internet users capable of breaking out of the GFW. At least to my knowledge. The VPN request signature is actually very obvious and prone to be recognised by GFW. There are many other recommended methods. A large market is available for this purpose.

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Post by Benmcdonald__ »

mindfulhack wrote: post #213

If you're feeling despair, there are real things that you can do. I do one thing that makes me proud every day. I run an obfs4 Tor bridge on an old Linux Mint box that's just sitting around in my home.* The bare minimum thing that Chinese and any other country's citizens need is information, and freedom of information. This is where tech truly, truly helps. [*] Yes, they may first need to connect to a working VPN, bu…

Also this. The Chinese communist party can't censor TLS 1.3 and ESNI. Update your website

https://twitter.com/mrkoot/status/1292358618004828160?s=20

Also promote bitcoin in China. CCP survives on the money it can threaten and coerce out of its popularity. Bitcoin removes people's assets from CCP control

Re: Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

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Post by toxik »

themgt wrote: post #91

I highly recommend doing some reading about what Xi and the CCP are really thinking and planning. It's a fascinating situation, and I'm not sure we or even they precisely know. But there has been a feel of a very dark turn overall in recent years, where perhaps an alignment between an appearance of widespread and growing failures of the US-led world order combined with China's unabated growing power, has cemented in…

But how high is the ceiling? What are you allowed to express, even though it’s controversial? Westerners all know that the ability to criticize those above you is the only check valve in the system, what drives our society to fix its actual, true problems. Not the problems that the governing elite recognizes. Riots are an expression, and they were in Hong Kong too. But the CCP did not listen.

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Post by erfgh »

strogonoff wrote: post #132

If we are collectively incapable of making any difference in this terrible transformation, then we could do the next thing CCP will hate: do a proper study of how population’s behavior changes as it transitions from a free mentality to the oppressed state mainland’s had been in for years. This is the chance. I'm not aware of any precedents to date, but a rigorous scientific record of this kind would be extremely valu…

To do a "proper study" you should be impartial, and you're not being impartial when right out of the bat you call this "a terrible transformation".

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Post by rorykoehler »

ken47 wrote: post #77
rorykoehler wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

War is almost guaranteed at this stage.

Interesting. China was just doing its own thing in the mid-1900's. Sure it was no paradise to live in, but they were pretty much irrelevant on the world stage. Then all these multinational corporations come along, pump steroids into the Chinese economy (and by extension, the CCP) while fattening their own pockets, and after a few decades, play dumb and whine about how China hasn't been playing fair. Am I wrong on any…

Pretty spot on.

Edit: if your last paragraph was relating to me I never advocated for it. Why is it you can’t say how you see things panning out without people thinking that you want it to be that way? I noticed it a lot on social media these days. For example I dislike Trump but predicted his election and was crucified for it. I was right.

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Post by rorykoehler »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #65
rorykoehler wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

War is almost guaranteed at this stage.

Why?

Because the US won’t want to relinquish their global hegemony and PRC has been slowly preparing for the moment when they can make their move.
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