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Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai arrested under national security law

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Post by throwaway77643 »

dqpb wrote: post #59
throwaway-semi wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

War is unlikely because of mutual destruction guaranteed by Nuclear weapons. What's most likely is information erosion, brain washing, espionage and political upheaval caused by CCP actors. Be careful what you write on the internet. You'll see the full wrath of CCP cancel culture like you've never seen before in the year 2050. Also, keep an eye on whichever country you belong to and how its government is not influenc…

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It’s like the Trail of Tears all over again.

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Post by ken47 »

zozin wrote: post #42

The thought of living in a China-centric world during the twilight of my life on Earth (2050+) makes my hair stand on end. I do not want to be treated as a second class human because of the color of my skin or my ethnicity. I do not want to lose business and professional opportunities because I am not Han. I do not want to live in a world where freedom of speech and expression are long lost memories, where even the r…

Invoking dystopian fantasies to rally cry for war? Seriously?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

labster wrote: post #17
aww_dang wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've claimed authority to extradite anyone (including non-Chinese citizens) under this new law.

And invoked that authority: China has pressed charges against an American citizen who lives in America for conduct that took place in the United States. https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/china/hong-kong-activists-arr... R.I.P Westphalian sovereignty

> R.I.P Westphalian sovereignty

The russian who ran an african "security" company, just before Erik Prince started his post-Blackwater african project, was arrested in thailand and sent to the US.

(This is probably a good place to remind any HK'ers with piles of the ready, who have not already invested in Vancouver, that Subic Bay is no longer a US naval base, but instead offers condos and a yacht harbour, all within cruising distance of HK.)

Before handover, HK police would come in pairs, with at least one english and one cantonese speaker. My (very pale and blonde) friend's hobby was to approach the cantonese speaking cop, who would gesticulate wildly pointing at their partner ... and ask a question in decent cantonese.

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Post by hyeomans »

zozin wrote: post #42

The thought of living in a China-centric world during the twilight of my life on Earth (2050+) makes my hair stand on end. I do not want to be treated as a second class human because of the color of my skin or my ethnicity. I do not want to lose business and professional opportunities because I am not Han. I do not want to live in a world where freedom of speech and expression are long lost memories, where even the r…

You’re describing Latin America and for that sole reason that you don’t see the irony of your argument, I think, what you described, will happen.

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Post by krtkush »

tedhuang wrote: post #67
seibelj wrote: post #4

As an anecdote, someone I know is an immigrant from HK and has lived in the USA for many years, and this person is afraid of saying anything publicly against China out of fear. Fear for their family in China and fear for their personal safety even in the USA. Similar to how Russia murders defectors [0], it’s not a good idea to be an expat and criticize China. It is an authoritarian regime, bottom line. [0] https://en…

lol There lots of messages on Chinese social media criticize CPC eg. Weibo and Toutiao. Unless it is something really absurd no one will come after you

The thing is one does not know if they'll come or not. That is not the point. There is a general fear amongst the people that they'll be targeted for speaking out. Effectively blocking freedom of speech.

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Post by throwaway77643 »

actuator wrote: post #26
ivalm wrote: post #5

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Hopefully not forever, I do believe in change for the better, but for now CCP is an evil force of repression.

I really don't see any change that can realistically take roots there. We have seen harsh sanctions fail to bring changes in a small poor country like NK where anyone looking South must be amazed at where they could have been. In case of PRC, forget a kinetic physical action. Their economy is so interconnected with every other major economy that no one can afford even actual sanctions.

In the 1920s, I don’t think any person could have imagined the progress in Civil Rights that would occur in America.

And yet it happened. From racist Jim Crow laws to Gay Rights, the progress made in 100 years is astonishing.

Give the PRC 100 years and who knows how it might change.

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Post by ken47 »

rorykoehler wrote: post #57
throwaway-semi wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

War is unlikely because of mutual destruction guaranteed by Nuclear weapons. What's most likely is information erosion, brain washing, espionage and political upheaval caused by CCP actors. Be careful what you write on the internet. You'll see the full wrath of CCP cancel culture like you've never seen before in the year 2050. Also, keep an eye on whichever country you belong to and how its government is not influenc…

War is almost guaranteed at this stage.

Interesting. China was just doing its own thing in the mid-1900's. Sure it was no paradise to live in, but they were pretty much irrelevant on the world stage. Then all these multinational corporations come along, pump steroids into the Chinese economy (and by extension, the CCP) while fattening their own pockets, and after a few decades, play dumb and whine about how China hasn't been playing fair. Am I wrong on any of this or am I going to get a bunch of anonymous downvotes?

Now some basement-dwelling armchair generals want to go to war with the consequences of our own making. If humanity ends in a cloud of fallout, it'll be hard to say we didn't deserve it.

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Post by Proven »

tedhuang wrote: post #70
lifeformed wrote: post #55

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In 1956, the CPC "encouraged citizens to express openly their opinions of the communist regime" and then "after this brief period of liberalization, ... those who were critical of the regime and its ideology ... were rounded up in waves by the hundred of thousands, publicly criticized, and condemned to prison camps for re-education through labor, or even execution." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campa…

another man's word: Law & Order

Nonsense.

It can't be lawful to initiate violence or excessively respond to violence initiated by others. Not many people rush to immigrate to Russia, China, North Korea and few other nice places. Take a hint.

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Post by throwaway77643 »

dqpb wrote: post #52
iabacu wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xi Jinping and the CCP’s official goal is for the Chinese people and everyone else to have a common destiny. Interpret these how you wish, because they are interpreting these how they wish.

How does force sterilizing of Uighurs fit into a common destiny?

From what I’ve read, the Han are also affected by this if they violate the new 2 child policy.

Back when it was the 1 child policy, only the Han had to follow it. The Uighurs and other minorities did not.

Now, everyone has to follow the 2 child policy.

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Post by f2000 »

breitling wrote: post #6

This is crazy. First the Muslim concentration camps, now this. Why won't the Western world impose any serious sanctions against China? We have invaded others countries for less

Countries with nukes and 2M+ man armies? Besides, too much is at stake by our corporate overlords to put military action or sanctions on the table. Sadly, Hong Kongers need to steel themselves for some tough struggle sessions.
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