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Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that Gates is the go to source for public health issues. His biggest contribution is money, which pays for really smart people to tackle these issues. So why not talk to the really smart people he hired?

An excellent question that shouldn't be downvoted. Why is Bill Gates "the guy?" Don't read that in a conspiratorial sense, just in a rational "can someone explain this to me" sense.

Because he chose to be the guy.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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He has a very weird habit of looking happy when people mention bad things happening, such as the collapse of the economy, second waves of COVID, etc.

He could smile because it's refreshening to hear questions or other people talk about critical things that are constantly being ignored by even the highest ranking politicians. He could also smile because he might find it funny that people bring those topics to him as if he were responsible for everything. We'll never know.

Or because he's a Luciferian depopulationist and things are going according to plan.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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I find it impossible to argue against encryption. People should have the tools to do things secretly. If you want to prevent all the bad things Bill talked about, attack those things, not the tools.

Not that I agree with this but here's Nick Bostrom basically arguing for the end of encryption https://www.businessinsider.com/nick-bostrom-mass-surveillan... IIRC the argument is basically that as tech progresses it will get easier and easier for any one person to destroy the planet. According to Bostrom the only way to prevent that is no secrets and ubiquitous surveillance.

None of what he said is correct and even if it was, it would be easier to destroy every piece of technology on earth than put collars around people to monitor what they do (According to his own idea of destruction, this is doubly true. He thinks destroying humanity can happen very easily so why can't it be easy to destroy devices?). I have trouble trusting this guy, and it's hard to resist calling him names. So I think I'm still going to argue that you cannot argue against encryption.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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I would love to see someone let Bill talk about covid, the implications of economic damage and increased debt over the next 1-2 years, the inequality which covid magnifies, and future methods of prevention - for an hour or two, with a good host. This interview is good but barely scratches the surface. edit: I've just found a recent interview - while still high level, it's a bit more detailed. However, the comments se…

It appears some of it is due to his relationship with ID2020 Alliance and Jeffrey Epstein.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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What's frustrating about this question is that it (inevitably!) commands the top of the HN thread with a discussion of the least interesting thing in the article. It's an article about COVID and Facebook, and here we're recapitulating the end-to-end encryption debate for the 8-zillionth time.

Bill Gates said something stupid and people are talking about it. His phrasing is what I expect an old person who doesn't have decades of industry pioneering experience in technology to say. So weird. Point is, who cares what else he has to say if he says stuff like this? He's as much an expert on technology as he is on pathology, so if his opinions on technology are bad... well you get the point.

He probably feels like he is the subject matter expert on technology but on medical stuff he listens to other people who claim to be subject matter experts.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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I mean it was created before internet/computers but sure. I don’t see your point though as we can and do scan media to combat that creation, without nuking the internet... Without the ability to scan, the battle seems seriously kneecapped. If currently reported counts from automation in the US are in the order of magnitude of 100 million (I forget exact numbers, but it was near this) from a small number of companies,…

Here's the greater point no one is talking about. Reread Gates statements. Illegal porn was practically an aside tossed in at the last minute. His point was lies. Encryption was the enemy because it enabled lies. The difference between Gates and LEO/Politicians? Gates lacks their dishonesty. LEO & pols have a terribly long history of leveraging extreme behavior as justification for increasing LEO/Gov power+budgets, a…

FWIW: I agree with all that

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that Gates is the go to source for public health issues. His biggest contribution is money, which pays for really smart people to tackle these issues. So why not talk to the really smart people he hired?

Bill Gates is a public health expert. He has been working on these problems with some of the smartest minds in the field for decades now. How long does someone need to be working on a problem before they're worthy of being a "go to source", in your opinion?

It doesn't matter how long. The "go-to" source should have integrity, along with no financial stake in the issues at hand.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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I think Gates is right. What is the problem with the government controlling communication? There are clear advantages, like handling illegal things. What are the disadvantages, the nude photo of your ex-girlfriend being analyzed by a machine?

We don't want a government to be the arbiter of truth. Please read 1984 or consider the following:

Iraq clearly has weapons of mass destruction. Censor all communications claiming otherwise.

The American government is not performing mass surveillance on its citizens. James Clapper Confirmed this in a Congressional Hearing. Censor all communication claiming otherwise

South Korea's President is not being influenced by a cult leader. Censor all communication claiming otherwise

And countless other examples where government controlling communication would lead to censorship of topics that the general public MUST hear. One cannot make an informed decision without information.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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It's never been easier to do #1 and never been harder to do #2.

Cancel culture is #2.

Cancel culture probably should be #2, it's debatable if it even scratches the surface of achieving #2. It seems cancel culture is not interested in people being dishonest, or spreading misinformation intentionally and maliciously, it's more concerned with enforcing new social mores against dredged up old statements/actions. That could be a good thing, in and of itself, but it doesn't help solve the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories.
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