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Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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There basically wasn't a proper "modern day" pandemic before this. The previous one was the spanish flu in 1918 which was very quickly forgotten due to a much larger pointless massacre (world wars) Air travel increase is a big factor why it got so bad so quickly, even in the past two decades basically everything has changed. We have hundreds millions of people basically teleporting between continents every day.

>> pointless massacre You’re implying as if wars happen because people are all angry and if they just happened to be kinder then all of that would be resolved immediately. It’s discounting a bunch of pragmatic reasons a lot of which have nothing to do with philosophy or human condition.

Not immediately, but life was worse for basically all participants (at least the major powers that precipitated wwi)

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That's unfair. "We don't know when the next pandemic will come, but it will come, and we should be prepared for it" is a perfectly reasonable statement. Any pandemic is likely going to require PPE, PCR testing reagents, BSL labs, etc. Same thing for recessions; predicting the specific timing of one is difficult. Advocating preparations for one - economic, fiscal, social policies etc. to mitigate, for example - is not…

Think of all of the things we are not preparing for. Isn't California due for the big one. Should we be spending now to get everyone out before it hits.

California absolutely can and should prepare for the eventuality of a large earthquake in the area (and they are, as another replier pointed out). Permanently evacuating the whole area maybe not.

Why is disaster preparedness at all controversial?

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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This kind of thinking is why I tend to buy as close to a full years worth of clothing whenever I make a trip out to Tokyo. Even in Chicago relatively fashionable men's clothing shops are few and far between

On the Europe side of the map, I find the same practicality in clothes when I shop from Finland. They too have all the brands one expects to see, but Finnish people (please any Finn comment/suggest) are super practical when it comes to clothing. Finns and Danes are my idols on simplicity, practicality and a hint of elegance.

Im not sure what you mean here.

I think you would do well to seperate the clothing/availability of the capital Helsinki, vs. rest of Finland.

Yes, outside of Helsinki and with the older population clothing is very utilitarian and wind-resistant sportsy clothing worn all round the year is common. The biggest seller of clothing items in Finland nationally is a supermarket chain.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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My preference is to buy full black jeans and shirts, 10 at a time. They look good and don’t go out of style. No insecurity when going outdoors and tons of cognitive load freed up for other stuff every morning. Instead of having to choose an outfit every morning... It’s too exhausting to keep up with trends ;)

This has the unfortunate side effect of everyone thinking there’s something “off” about you. This can have detrimental effects on your career, even if you’re a billionaire iconoclast, but a regular person probably will face greater detriment.

Notably, the cognitive difference picking between having all the same clothes and having a variety of clothes that go together in any combination (various jeans, colors of tee shirts, etc) is nil, and has the added benefit that people won’t think you’re write because you’re always wearing all black (though I can’t promise they won’t think you’re weird for other reasons).

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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> Finns and Danes are my idols on simplicity, practicality and a hint of elegance. Jesus... I never thought I'd ever read that Finns could be someone's idols when it comes to elegance. But if you fancy wearing sports overwear [0] fitted in your rubber boots, after all... ---- [0] don't forget to buy the exact same model for your partner, and wear it at the same time, if you want to pass as a true Finnish couple.

Not sure why this is being downvoted: Finns themselves joke about having no fashion sense, and the stereotypes is guys in sweatpants with a flask of vodka in the back pocket and women with no makeup. Things have improved over the last 20 years, but the contrast to Russia in particular is very noticeable.

These both seem to be stereotypes from decades ago when USSR was still a threat.

If you keep up with current events you might have noticed that Finland has become a prominent country in the worldside design and fashion world.

I for example have never heard of this kind of joke being said or written anywhere.

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> Now a global pandemic had hit. He couldn’t foresee that. No one did. Some people did. Taiwan prepared after SARS. Of course nobody forsaw all possible consequences but it would be better to say that not everyone has the capacity to account for all possible tail risks.

Do you believe that Taiwan somehow knew ahead of time that there was going to be a pandemic this year? How do you believe they knew that?

Do you think your local fire department knew ahead of time that there was going to be a fire at Joes house? How do you believe they know that?

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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They knew that there was a continuous risk of a pandemic and prepared for one happening eventually . Just like we know there's a low risk of an entire server room going up in flames/water damage/lightning/getting hit by a truck driving into a building and that's why we have offsite backups even though we won't know when something is going to happen.

> They knew that there was a continuous risk of a pandemic and prepared for one happening eventually. What else did they prepare for. Is this public knowledge?

Why are you wording this like you're suspicious? Disaster preparedness is not some big conspiracy. Just because America is doing a shit job at this doesn't mean other countries are out to get them.

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> This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. This is so true, and it annoys me for reasons I'll mention later. > Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality. I'm a young man, but I also like to express myself by dressing a certain way, which is why I'm especially disappointed when literally three whole floors…

As someone who doesn't want to pour resources into a fruitless arms race, I'm glad that a supergovernmental system has unilaterally enacted arms control. ;)

There is serious value to being perceived as you want to be though! It’s not really fruitless, nor an arms race.

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After buying mostly levi's jeans for 30 years I started noticing huge differences in quality / durability.. upon inspecting the waist seams I noticed the 'made in pakistan / mexico' and other labels of origin. The same style/numbers from different years had different fabric thicknesses and were made in various places, and they did not last as long. So I started to question this "American brand". Then they started goi…

Sad to see that the nuts think requiring background checks is now "reducing gun rights". Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional. Perhaps you should give that document a read. I guess fox news is winning that battle.

> Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional.

Citation needed. I don't know how more unambiguous the framers could get than "shall not be infringed".

Setting aside my personal feelings on the matter, this just seems to be a bad argument which is not in evidence. I've read the Constitution thoroughly on more than one occasion, I don't see anything within that makes it seems as if the framers thought ignoring what was written in plain English and skirting its intent was a-okay.

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