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Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Post by andrewflnr »

coldtea wrote: post #158
taurath wrote: post #18

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(All comments on culture US centric) - This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. Culturally for men clothing is supposed to be above all practical. There are 5 genres of men’s clothes - business (pressed shirts, suits), casual, workout, skater, and comfort (hoodie). Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality…

> Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality. Personality is expressed through choice of cut, material, and color of cloth?

I don't get how it works either, but yes, 100%.

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Post by dominotw »

Tade0 wrote: post #131
dominotw wrote: post #83

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> They knew that there was a continuous risk of a pandemic and prepared for one happening eventually. What else did they prepare for. Is this public knowledge?

It's just that COVID-19 is the third coronavirus to cause an epidemic this century - after SARS and MERS.

yea i guess i meant other than pandemics.

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Post by Scoundreller »

geerlingguy wrote: post #146
sukilot wrote: post #108

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Which parts of a Mac laptop to people buy by the part? I congratulate you for your thriftiness and ecological contribution, but surely this is an extremely niche practice.

Any piece that you can dissemble, from the top case and keyboard, to the logic board, to the display and bezel. And on older ones, they even had those amazing removable drives and RAM... and remember, since the drives at least were using a slightly proprietary form factor, you either have to buy a used OEM drive or a more expensive 3rd party replacement like the ones from OWC. But even an old broken MacBook Air can g…

I've even sold the set of screws for $10. People would rather buy from me than risk non-OEM ones.

Yep, all the proprietary parts work out well as long as you don't end up needing them yourself.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Post by [deleted] »

mthoms wrote: post #52
pembrook wrote: post #35

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Yes, human “culture” and it’s “trends” are such a waste. Why can’t everybody just spend their entire lives staring at screens while dressed in tshirts, like us software engineers do? Those thousands of years of human history spent on emotionally-driven aesthetic pursuits like art, fashion, music, culinary tradition and architecture...what a waste of time and resources. If only we could be more robot-like and efficien…

Besides being a reductio ad absurdum [0] argument that ads nothing to the discussion, I'll address your comment. Music, Art, Food, Literature and Architecture generally don't go out of style every 6 months (although companies are trying harder and harder to make it so). Nor do they have the same toxic effect on the environment (possible exception: food?) and personal self esteem as high fashion. [0] https://en.wikipe…

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Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Post by 9nGQluzmnq3M »

wott wrote: post #139
HenryBemis wrote: post #93

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On the Europe side of the map, I find the same practicality in clothes when I shop from Finland. They too have all the brands one expects to see, but Finnish people (please any Finn comment/suggest) are super practical when it comes to clothing. Finns and Danes are my idols on simplicity, practicality and a hint of elegance.

> Finns and Danes are my idols on simplicity, practicality and a hint of elegance. Jesus... I never thought I'd ever read that Finns could be someone's idols when it comes to elegance. But if you fancy wearing sports overwear [0] fitted in your rubber boots, after all... ---- [0] don't forget to buy the exact same model for your partner, and wear it at the same time, if you want to pass as a true Finnish couple.

Not sure why this is being downvoted: Finns themselves joke about having no fashion sense, and the stereotypes is guys in sweatpants with a flask of vodka in the back pocket and women with no makeup. Things have improved over the last 20 years, but the contrast to Russia in particular is very noticeable.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Post by whatshisface »

0xdeadb00f wrote: post #159
taurath wrote: post #18

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(All comments on culture US centric) - This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. Culturally for men clothing is supposed to be above all practical. There are 5 genres of men’s clothes - business (pressed shirts, suits), casual, workout, skater, and comfort (hoodie). Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality…

> This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. This is so true, and it annoys me for reasons I'll mention later. > Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality. I'm a young man, but I also like to express myself by dressing a certain way, which is why I'm especially disappointed when literally three whole floors…

As someone who doesn't want to pour resources into a fruitless arms race, I'm glad that a supergovernmental system has unilaterally enacted arms control. ;)

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Post by jdm2212 »

tomp wrote: post #147
ceejayoz wrote: post #50

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Same for South Korea, and folks like Gates and Fauci have been warning about the next pandemic for many years.

Even a broken clock is right twice every day. People have also been warning about the next market crash for many years. Finally, one happened because of pandemic, and it's over in a blink of an eye. I'm still expecting an even bigger crash, but I've learned my lesson against timing the future.

If you play Russian Roulette, you'll eventually kill yourself. You might not be able to predict exactly which trigger pull will do it, but one of them will.

Don't try to time the market. Do try to prepare for a crisis.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Post by coldtea »

magic_beans wrote: post #167
coldtea wrote: post #158

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> Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality. Personality is expressed through choice of cut, material, and color of cloth?

Don't be dense. Whether you admit it or not, most people judge others based on appearance.

Don't be denser, judging others by their appereance is shallow. The fact that people still do it doesn't mean that when you change your clothes that's any kind of expression proper.

It's just a cheap way to signal something that you might or might not be, and only superficially at that.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

sukilot wrote: post #101
taurath wrote: post #18

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(All comments on culture US centric) - This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. Culturally for men clothing is supposed to be above all practical. There are 5 genres of men’s clothes - business (pressed shirts, suits), casual, workout, skater, and comfort (hoodie). Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality…

> Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality This is not where I expected to see the "personality" euphemism today.

Now I’m feeling stupid. What is personality a euphemism for?

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Post by purple_ferret »

kurthr wrote: post #82
kazen44 wrote: post #5

The collapse of the fashion industry does not mean the clothing industry will collapse. People still need clothing obviously (cheap and of good quality preferably). Also, what do we consider the fashion industry exactly? Most long term clothing trends seem to be dictated by a couple of factors. Consisting of: - practicality. Jeans are good example of this. It's cheap and practical clothing that lasts a long time. - c…

Yes, but Jeans are part of the collapse now and considered formal for creatives with Levi's down 62% and doing layoffs. I thought "formality" was bizarre as well, but apparently their target demo don't consider the older skinny-jeans, and the new high-waisted mom-jeans to be as comfortable as Lulus... who'd have thunk it? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/jeans-sal... I suspect that it's a long term…

I barely buy jeans now because it's hard to find a pair that isn't 10% spandex
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