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90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Yea, was going to say the same. I'm personally sick and tired of hearing "the new normal". No, it's temporary, get over the doomsday fetish. I swear this is worse than those hardcore preppers who pray for an apocalypse. Every person that goes, "the end is near" over every damn thing is literally the least or naively prepared person for such a thing. It's just a fetish developed by people unable to cope with any state…

Not sure you are using the right word.

If a prepper subscribed to your idea wouldn't they think they are better off not equal because of the investments they made.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Mind to share some good pasta sauce ideas?

Of course! Marianara sauce: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1015987-classic-marinara... You'd have to buy a san marazano can and spaghetti for this, a couple bucks each, and you can store each for quite a while. You can add meatballs in it if you're not a vegetarian. Pesto sauce: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/07/best-pesto-recip... You might balk at the idea of having fresh basil... I would argue it's…

Also Spaghetti Carbonara is super-easy if you're OK with bacon :-). Can also toss in some quickly defrosted frozen shrimp to many recipes. A lot of quick spaghetti recipes.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

#33

"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

s/for good/for the better/

In the "it's an improvement" sense, not the "it's a permanent change" sense.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

#34

"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Your point is true for some, but I dispute 'all values of x'.

Post-pandemic, yes, some items from that page are going to return to pre-pandemic numbers, I'm sure - hangover, restaurant, ticket, etc.

But for people who've discovered that stuff they grow at home - from herbs on the balcony to tomatoes in the yard - taste much better, are unlikely to just forget that.

Similarly people discovering this year that they enjoy the process and flavours of cooking or baking bread are also unlikely to forget it all.

Ditto people who pay more attention to their health and work environment - dumbbell, standing desk.

Google search terms are likely to reach stasis, of course, as people who want this knowledge now have it, but that doesn't mean there won't be a shift in people's behaviours and activities.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Being The Economist I suppose it makes sense they left out the absolutely massive shift in the trending of Marxism[1](~+900%) in the last few months. [1] - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F065...

I'd like to point out that you are data-illiterate here.

Here is an alternate explanation: Very few people search for 19th century political philosphies on Google, compared to the number of people who search for "hangover". Therefore all it takes is 1 news article, interview, book, movie, etc to cause people to do a quick search and find out what a word means.

So called "using google as a dictionary" is all you are seeing here.

The spike you are seeing, no surprise, coincides with a specific person describing BLM as "marxist".

This has nothing to do with covid. It's honestly stupid for you to try to draw a straight line between COVID and marxism and imply that it's some kind of conspiracy that the Economist is hiding.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?".

Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. I get that people always tend to think their moment in history is particularly special, but I'm just gonna say if the black death didn't do something in this won't either

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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I'd like to offer you my anecdote, suggesting this will have lasting effects: it forced me to learn cooking! My folks have commented on this a lot, I really stepped up my cooking game in this confinement. I've learned how to make a lot of pasta sauces, and how to do them _easily and quickly_, etc. The key was learning it well enough to become comfortable with it so that it doesn't loom as some esoteric activity which…

Mind to share some good pasta sauce ideas?

A Bolognese sauce (and I'm sure a proper chef would tell you all the ways I'm getting this wrong) is one of those things you can make a big old pot and freeze down for multiple meals.

Brown some ground meat. I'm a fan of some spicy pork sausage and beef. Figure a pound or so. Drain and set aside. Dice up some bacon - figure a quarter of the pack or so. Peel a couple carrots and drop them in with the bacon. Peel and cut an onion in half, toss it in. Do a couple stalks of celery too as the bacon cooks.

Once the bacon starts to crisp up, drain the fat if you need to. Add the meat back in and leave in the veg. Add a can of diced tomatoes. Add a cup of chicken stock. Add a small can of tomato sauce. Stir and cover, and let it sit on the stove for 3-4 hours at a simmer - just making the occasional bubble.

Dice an onion, a few carrots, and some celery. Smash/dice a few garlic cloves. Grab another pan, drop in a 1/4-1/2" chunk of butter, and saute up the onion for a couple minutes, add the carrots, garlic, and celery. When the chucks of garlic start turning brown, throw a half a cup or so of wine (red, white, whatever you've been drinking while you cook) into the pan and scrap up all the good stuff. Take it off heat.

Fish out the original veg you added in a few hours ago, and dump in the fresh stuff you just cooked up. Add some basil and oregano (fresh if you have it) if you have any and let it simmer for another 30 minutes.

Add a cup of milk or cream and let it simmer uncovered for another 15 minutes or so.

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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Electoric bicycle fall under the Healthy Living category? Like how?

I have an ebike and I get just as much exercise per-minute as I would on a regular bike, Im just going 30mph while riding upright, sometimes with 30lbs of cargo, in instead of languishing at 10-20mph and caring about the direction of the wind

Re: 90% economy, 120% gastronomy: Covid-19 seems to have changed lifestyles for good

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"Covid-19 seems to have changed [x] for good" is not worth reading, for all values of x, until we have gotten to a post-pandemic environment. It's like saying, in the seconds or even days after a car crash, that the car crash has changed your driving styles for good. Wayyyyyy too early to say.

Yep, some of these predictions are outright comical. "has covid ended handshakes forever" or "will we ever go back to bars?". Bars and handshakes have survived thousands of years of pandemics. I get that people always tend to think their moment in history is particularly special, but I'm just gonna say if the black death didn't do something in this won't either

I agree with you and I’ve been repeating this point to my close circle, though this article did (for the first time) make me sort of excited to see what will stick, if anything.

Take the searches for yeast and recipe, for example. I don’t think its totally farfetched to imagine that a sizeable handful of people have wondered, maybe for the first time, how to bake things like bread and cookies or how to make meatballs. It would be really cool if we actually saw these things’ growth in popularity persist in some tangible form into the future. These things have definitely existed for a long time, but I feel like we North Americans have been trending towards fast food and delivered meals for a few decades now.

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