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Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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He is easily one of the least bullshit-y sources when it comes to handling of COVID. But then there's this right in the middle of the interview: " And when you have [posts] encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography [to be hidden with encryption like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger] ". Quite literally, encrypted comm…

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Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right - see the MedCram lectures on the topic: How to Beat COVID-19 with At-Home, Rapid Result Testing: 5 Min. Summary by Dr. Mina (Antigen Tests) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZWuyvBAWWQ Coronavirus Pandemic Update 98: At Home COVID-19 Testing - A Possible Breakthrough (~ 15 min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Sv_pS8MgQ At Home, Cheap, COVID-19 Tests with Results in 15 Minutes: How to Fix Testing with Dr. Mich…

Only videos? No text?

There are a bunch of articles etc on this, of which this is a pretty good overview:

https://harvardmagazine.com/2020/08/covid-19-test-for-public...

I'm also a huge fan of this work and struggling to understand why it isn't more mainstream.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Like it or not, he's become a highly controversial figure for a large fraction of the population, particularly within the societies that his foundation works. In my opinion, they'd do good to pick a figure whose name is less tarnished if they want the message to be more broadly accepted.

No matter who you put forth saying what Gates has been saying, they will quickly be tarnished by the same baseless bullshit. Effectively 0% of people knew who Facui or Birx were before the pandemic. Now they're the target of the same kind of controversy.

Maybe zero young people but I’d say well informed middle age and up would know who Facui is. It’s hard to debate this with a source but these people have even in the news for decades when things go wrong. I disagree with the “effective 0%”

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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To me, the most striking thing about the interview is his idea for just fixing the Covid testing delays. I think he puts his finger right on the problem: we're incentivizing essentially worthless tests by paying full price. Change the reimbursement structure and capitalism will do its job. I'd like to understand more deeply why this is not happening.

You don't have to understand very much to know that the Trump administration has made so many wrong turns on this issue. This is just a small part of their stupidity, and it has cost the US thousands of lives, and a much longer road to recovery. November can't come soon enough.

The dysfunction of the US healthcare system predates the Trump administration by a lot. I consider blaming Trump a shallow explanation of what's going wrong. Why are other leaders doing such a poor job articulating the way forward? Why aren't governors getting together and doing all they can to work around the obvious failures of the federal response?

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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post #93

He is easily one of the least bullshit-y sources when it comes to handling of COVID. But then there's this right in the middle of the interview: " And when you have [posts] encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography [to be hidden with encryption like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger] ". Quite literally, encrypted comm…

He's thinking from a pragmatic, utilitarian mindset. He has no principles surrounding privacy. If it has to be sacrificed to get the job done that's fine in his mind as long as it's a net positive.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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post #93

He is easily one of the least bullshit-y sources when it comes to handling of COVID. But then there's this right in the middle of the interview: " And when you have [posts] encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography [to be hidden with encryption like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger] ". Quite literally, encrypted comm…

Kinda rich he spearheaded his own control of what people do with his bytes to now say others can't. I wish it wasn't true that enabling something like this would compromise all of our collective security.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter who you put forth saying what Gates has been saying, they will quickly be tarnished by the same baseless bullshit. Effectively 0% of people knew who Facui or Birx were before the pandemic. Now they're the target of the same kind of controversy.

Maybe zero young people but I’d say well informed middle age and up would know who Facui is. It’s hard to debate this with a source but these people have even in the news for decades when things go wrong. I disagree with the “effective 0%”

I’m a allegedly well-educated well-over-30s person, didn’t know who either of them were.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like it or not, he's become a highly controversial figure for a large fraction of the population, particularly within the societies that his foundation works. In my opinion, they'd do good to pick a figure whose name is less tarnished if they want the message to be more broadly accepted.

No matter who you put forth saying what Gates has been saying, they will quickly be tarnished by the same baseless bullshit. Effectively 0% of people knew who Facui or Birx were before the pandemic. Now they're the target of the same kind of controversy.

Effectively 0% of people knew Anthony Fauci?

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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post #93

He is easily one of the least bullshit-y sources when it comes to handling of COVID. But then there's this right in the middle of the interview: " And when you have [posts] encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography [to be hidden with encryption like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger] ". Quite literally, encrypted comm…

I don't think he is saying that encrypted communication should be illegal. He's saying that spreading lies through encrypted channels should be stopped. It would not be hard for WhatsApp to prevent people from spreading bogus videos, because they have access to the unencrypted information before and after sending. So either preventing people from sharing misinformation or preventing people from reading the misinformation. That's separate from the argument about whether or not it's a good thing (I wouldn't see a problem with it personally).
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