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5G Just Got Weird

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5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

And a car is just a faster horse, but it sure changed society in fundamental ways. Often, incremental progress leads to unexpected critical mass, which opens new unimagined avenues for exploitation.

Re: 5G Just Got Weird

#132

5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

Cynical view: web and app developers for work use fiber connections via Wi-Fi ac or even 1G ethernet, now users, thanks to 5g will be able to finally, somewhat, catch-up.

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5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

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5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

Around 2000, I was working at OracleMobile, attened 3GPP/Mobile Congress/etc meetings, and there was a similar discussion around 3g. People were like "what's the killer app"? At the time, most phones were WML/WAP and Blackberry-like SMS/MMS/Email experiences. People speculated "maybe music or video", but it was all very vague, no one imagined the smartphone revolution that brought all of these services, like Uber.

I'd say it's impossible to know what super-high bandwidth and low-latency will bring to the table as the next killer app. It's going to be something we don't expect.

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Not exactly on topic: There have been a few HN submissions in the past linking to papers concerned with the effect of 5G on insects. As a layperson I was not able to evaluate those papers. But if anyone knows if there was any kind of consensus reached about that, or even if this is something that anyone serious is concerned about, I would appreciate the pointer.

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Eh, don't underestimate the savings from reuse that's actually practical and not cost-plus. I think SpaceX have demonstrated the economic case for their approach with the F9. And once SpaceX demonstrate they can put cargo on Mars, NASA'll have to get in. Plus people may actually pay to migrate. If you think those numbers are unrealistic, look at SpaceX's posted total costs for their rocket development programs. I thi…

> Plus people may actually pay to migrate. Sure, but “rich people's vanity may help finance the program” (and NASA will help finance the program, etc.) doesn’t anything to support “satellite internet will finance the program by itself ”.

No, I mean if cost is as stated. I'm saying cost as stated is plausible if you account that flights may be sold.

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#138

5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

Around 2000, I was working at OracleMobile, attened 3GPP/Mobile Congress/etc meetings, and there was a similar discussion around 3g. People were like "what's the killer app"? At the time, most phones were WML/WAP and Blackberry-like SMS/MMS/Email experiences. People speculated "maybe music or video", but it was all very vague, no one imagined the smartphone revolution that brought all of these services, like Uber. I'…

But your case what enabled the emergence of mobile apps and associated markets was the apparition of affordable smartphones -that's what created a new ecosystem for tech and pseudotech companies to grow in.

What new market is 5g enabling?

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lol! You still find cockroaches around regardless of wi-fi or 4g signal

Clearly he doesn't. Do you?

I live in a city with WiFi and 4G (and 5G in a few spots) and roaches.

I just checked the 5G map. I saw roaches where there's 5G. So if it makes some difference, it's not much.

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One thing the Test and Measurement industry is looking forward to, is being able to have extremely high bandwidth (wireless) connections between gear. The idea is that with 5G you can combine your function generate with your oscilloscope to form a basic network analyser with the data travelling wireless between themselves and your computer. The throughput is high enough, and there wouldn't be any wires.

Why 5G instead of WiFi for that scenario?

I think the idea is that the want to replace the cables rather (i.e. not centralized around a WiFi network). 5G is a bit faster too (apparently, not my area of expertise)
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