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Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by syspec »

kossTKR wrote: post #30
simonh wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do what they want, until they end up hanging from a jail house ceiling? I find it somewhat uncomfortable Posting a comment that might seem pro rich, and he did initially get away with minimal penalties, but you didn’t exactly pick the poster boy for Unlimited impunity.

Well it's all pretty muddy, but so far i think Epstein was expendable. As i just wrote there are a myriad of links to "intelligence" and a larger structure. If people are interested go to the Epstein subreddit take deep dive - most likely it was a classic honeypot operation to blackmail high ranking politicians for political gain or for some industrial complex - not a lone wolf with a back story that makes no sense i…

Two conspiracy theorist die and go to heaven. At the pearly gates they are let in and allowed to ask god one question. They ask him, about the Epstein suicide, and god replies “no my sons, there was no conspiracy, it was in fact suicide”

The conspiracy theorists turn to one another and remark, “This goes even higher than we thought”

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by nugget »

refurb wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that Gates is the go to source for public health issues. His biggest contribution is money, which pays for really smart people to tackle these issues. So why not talk to the really smart people he hired?

The "smartest" (most accomplished?) experts within a field will often disagree with each other - sometimes on very important topics. I've encountered this first-hand. It's more common in certain fields than others, but I've seen at least a little bit of it almost everywhere. I can see value in an independent third-party from outside the field who brings experts together, listens to their best advice, and then decides what course to recommend.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

ffggvv wrote: post #3

My key takeaways Against how our govt handled covid: >> The irony is that this is a president who is a vaccine skeptic. Every meeting I have with him he is like, “Hey, I don’t know about vaccines, and you have to meet with this guy Robert Kennedy Jr. who hates vaccines and spreads crazy stuff about them.” >> Well, that’s just stupidity. The majority of all US tests are completely garbage, wasted. If you don’t care ho…

Gates never once said he is against the concept of the government handling of COVID19. He criticized the actual implementation of COVID19 strategy. Totally different thing.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by ffggvv »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #53
ffggvv wrote: post #3

My key takeaways Against how our govt handled covid: >> The irony is that this is a president who is a vaccine skeptic. Every meeting I have with him he is like, “Hey, I don’t know about vaccines, and you have to meet with this guy Robert Kennedy Jr. who hates vaccines and spreads crazy stuff about them.” >> Well, that’s just stupidity. The majority of all US tests are completely garbage, wasted. If you don’t care ho…

Gates never once said he is against the concept of the government handling of COVID19. He criticized the actual implementation of COVID19 strategy. Totally different thing.

yeah i meant to convey the second one. sorry if you took it that way. i should have said our govt's handling of the virus.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by zeusk »

ralph84 wrote: post #31
rgrieselhuber wrote: post #17

He has a very weird habit of looking happy when people mention bad things happening, such as the collapse of the economy, second waves of COVID, etc.

The charitable take is he's still a socially awkward nerd. The uncharitable take is he's still as ruthless as he was during the embrace, extend, extinguish days and since the pandemic has been great business for him why shouldn't he be happy.

what business? His networth has been flat-ish compared to Bezos. Maybe someone else needs to be a bit more charitable.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by fierarul »

arrrg wrote: post #50
fierarul wrote: post #40

This is a terrible interview and Gates comes across like duplicitous. Like, where to start? Somebody save this one before the edits.

Could you name your specific criticisms? Gates was punchy, sure, but his answers seem reasonable.

Well, for starters he seems quite in favour of a Western Great Firewall except this one will be used for Good(TM).

And although the current US government is pretty bad, Microsoft should buy their own social media platform which is being otherwise kneecapped for political reasons.

The remark about the Congress was cringey. Haha, let's laugh with the convicted monopolist about the good ol days.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by m0zg »

refurb wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that Gates is the go to source for public health issues. His biggest contribution is money, which pays for really smart people to tackle these issues. So why not talk to the really smart people he hired?

Not strange at all once you consider how the press operates:

- Bill Gates: 10 million clicks, $$$

- Joe Schmoe, MD, PhD: 0 clicks, no $$$

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by kossTKR »

syspec wrote: post #51
kossTKR wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's all pretty muddy, but so far i think Epstein was expendable. As i just wrote there are a myriad of links to "intelligence" and a larger structure. If people are interested go to the Epstein subreddit take deep dive - most likely it was a classic honeypot operation to blackmail high ranking politicians for political gain or for some industrial complex - not a lone wolf with a back story that makes no sense i…

Two conspiracy theorist die and go to heaven. At the pearly gates they are let in and allowed to ask god one question. They ask him, about the Epstein suicide, and god replies “no my sons, there was no conspiracy, it was in fact suicide” The conspiracy theorists turn to one another and remark, “This goes even higher than we thought”

It's a super gray area i agree, and people can become obsessed with "patterns".

I personally find it interesting like i find the Snowden revelations interesting, or the Wikileaks implications or geopolitics in general.

I started majoring in history before going into tech so i don't personally find any of these "conspiracies" fringe or stupid seen in a historical context of for example US intelligence organisations throughout the 20's century - obviously non organic campaigns like qAnon is something completely different but this info is from classic journalism.

But i can see that those top-down campaigns has really turned people away from even the slightest deviation of the "official narrative" now, so well, qAnon and other psyops really are working - there is only the mainstream, and the idiots left.

Re: Interview with Bill Gates on Covid, social media

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

felixgallo wrote: post #29
lostlogin wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My key takeaways Against govt handling of covid: To be fair, there aren’t many governments ‘handling’ Covid in anything like a manner that has been good.

why would you even bring up the topic of being fair about something like this?

As Gates touches on, trust in public health infrastructure is important to maintain, because when this crisis is over there will still be other diseases which need to be addressed. If people hold public health agencies to unfair standards, seeing them as simply incompetent for problems which are fundamentally hard to address, the inevitable and very dangerous conclusion will be they can't be trusted to handle things like tuberculosis or HIV.
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