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Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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I'm saddened by the job losses, but the fashion industry (esp. the high end) seems nothing but a toxic drain on society and the environment. New "trends" dictated by celebrities and designers every year do nothing but sow personal insecurities and environmental destruction. Good riddance.

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Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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post #8

I'm saddened by the job losses, but the fashion industry (esp. the high end) seems nothing but a toxic drain on society and the environment. New "trends" dictated by celebrities and designers every year do nothing but sow personal insecurities and environmental destruction. Good riddance.

Your comment applies equally to all luxury consumer goods. It also ignores the fact that many people derive pleasure from 'dressing up', or 'looking their best'.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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The collapse of the fashion industry does not mean the clothing industry will collapse. People still need clothing obviously (cheap and of good quality preferably). Also, what do we consider the fashion industry exactly? Most long term clothing trends seem to be dictated by a couple of factors. Consisting of: - practicality. Jeans are good example of this. It's cheap and practical clothing that lasts a long time. - c…

> cultural "requirement": clothing that is required to fit into social circles. The shirt would be a good example of this, aswell as the tie.

So... fashion?

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> Now a global pandemic had hit. He couldn’t foresee that. No one did. Some people did. Taiwan prepared after SARS. Of course nobody forsaw all possible consequences but it would be better to say that not everyone has the capacity to account for all possible tail risks.

"When the next pandemic occurs (and make no mistake, it will) and the federal government is unable to respond in a coordinated and effective fashion to protect the lives of US citizens and others, this decision by John Bolton and Donald Trump will be why."

-Stephen Schwartz, on Twitter, May 2018

People knew. Also, Americans don't really have the habit of factoring in major events outside of their control into their long term strategy. It will be ok. The danger is "over there". The oceans will protect us.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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font-size: 30px; max-width: 600px; Is it just me who has difficulties reading this article on desktop?

They probably wanted it to look good on their insane high resolution screen judging by the font... They shoulda sized it in em and not pixels specifically. OTOH reader mode on firefox fixes any of that nonsense.

The em unit is relative to the inherited font size. If you don’t specify an absolute font size or inherit one then you inherit the user agent default for the which is 16px.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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Good riddance. The majority of my clothing spending was for rarely worn social compliance items like a suit, ties, and nice shoes.

My spend is probably:

#1: Specialty clothing for outdoor activities, etc.

#2: Stuff for day-to-day travel and (when I used to regularly go into an office--which hasn't been for years) day-to-day office. This clothing isn't particularly expensive but gets stained/worn over time.

I have dress clothing but I wear it so seldom that I'm pretty sure I'll never buy another tie or likely another suit.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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The collapse of the fashion industry does not mean the clothing industry will collapse. People still need clothing obviously (cheap and of good quality preferably). Also, what do we consider the fashion industry exactly? Most long term clothing trends seem to be dictated by a couple of factors. Consisting of: - practicality. Jeans are good example of this. It's cheap and practical clothing that lasts a long time. - c…

(All comments on culture US centric) - This thinking is why the men’s section is 1/4 as large as the women’s in most stores. Culturally for men clothing is supposed to be above all practical. There are 5 genres of men’s clothes - business (pressed shirts, suits), casual, workout, skater, and comfort (hoodie).

Contrast this with the women’s section. Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality. There are all sorts of “impractical” cuts, flairs, colors, layers to choose from. There’s a shoe for every occasion. You can get dramatically different fabrics, feels, and touches. Not even going into accessories.

There is certainly a sea change happening in fashion retail, but it’s more that like everything else it’s accelerating things that are already going on. People were trending less formal almost everywhere in the workplace, except NYC, SF and LA (or in high touch industries like real estate or law). Your H&Ms are best positioned to survive, where everyone already knows that Macy’s is on its last legs.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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post #5

The collapse of the fashion industry does not mean the clothing industry will collapse. People still need clothing obviously (cheap and of good quality preferably). Also, what do we consider the fashion industry exactly? Most long term clothing trends seem to be dictated by a couple of factors. Consisting of: - practicality. Jeans are good example of this. It's cheap and practical clothing that lasts a long time. - c…

> - practicality. Jeans are good example of this. It's cheap and practical clothing that lasts a long time.

Yeah but that skinny/tight jeans trend really did made some jeans less practical.

Re: Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed

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post #8

I'm saddened by the job losses, but the fashion industry (esp. the high end) seems nothing but a toxic drain on society and the environment. New "trends" dictated by celebrities and designers every year do nothing but sow personal insecurities and environmental destruction. Good riddance.

Your comment applies equally to all luxury consumer goods. It also ignores the fact that many people derive pleasure from 'dressing up', or 'looking their best'.

Fast fashion, which was the dominant trend, has nothing to do with dressing up or looking one’s best.
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