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5G Just Got Weird

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Re: 5G Just Got Weird

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Post by sseagull »

smitty1e wrote: post #41
Latty wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scott Adams seems to be pretty divorced from reality, so I would take his ideas with a pinch of salt. (To clarify: He's also claimed that if Biden wins the election, Republicans will literally be hunted in the streets, and I think regardless of your political views that is pretty clearly not actually going to happen, so his ability to predict future events with any accuracy isn't something I'd trust. Source: https://…

To clarify: when not raising interesting technical points, he does engage in overt trolling to test cancel culture limits, yes. He has stated this in his Periscopes.

Seems like Popehat’s Rule of Goats applies, then. And therefore he is not credible.

For the unfamiliar (contains NSFW language)

https://twitter.com/popehat/status/858722120620265473

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Post by ses1984 »

ksec wrote: post #64
thinkingkong wrote: post #11

5G doesnt seem like its enabling anything fundamentally new. The talk of any ”killer app” based on having more throughput or on these optimizations always feels like demand generation and slightly inauthentic. Are there any technologies enabled by these techniques that are not possible today?

It enables much higher capacity. So theoretically it would work more like wired Internet where you are sold on Bandwidth and not on Data. ( Within Reasonable usage ) Many Countries in Europe are already doing it right now with 4G. Technically it is more much interesting from a Carrier / Backend perspective. Where there are huge unit cost optimisation and ease of management. But for consumers it really is just a faste…

>where you are sold on Bandwidth and not on Data

Hahah

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Post by Havoc »

>5G for cars to communicate with each other

That's pretty good news. Even a simple "sharp braking" type coms between cars has decent potential to save lives beyond what can be achieved with radar & the like.

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Post by dylan604 »

magicsmoke wrote: post #28
CydeWeys wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how this will fare vs Starlink, which seems like it's trying to solve the same problem.

Starlink will probably do better than 5G for access to rural areas because you don't need to build out a physical cable. In highly dense urban areas with large numbers of simultaneous users, 5G is a better fit.

Have the 5G towers connect to Starlink rather than running the cabling to them.

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Post by kungato »

Havoc wrote: post #73

>5G for cars to communicate with each other That's pretty good news. Even a simple "sharp braking" type coms between cars has decent potential to save lives beyond what can be achieved with radar & the like.

How do you avoid bad actors in these scenarios? Sounds ripe for general havoc, targeting specific people etc

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Post by andybak »

swebs wrote: post #48
Latty wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scott Adams seems to be pretty divorced from reality, so I would take his ideas with a pinch of salt. (To clarify: He's also claimed that if Biden wins the election, Republicans will literally be hunted in the streets, and I think regardless of your political views that is pretty clearly not actually going to happen, so his ability to predict future events with any accuracy isn't something I'd trust. Source: https://…

Does every thread really have to turn into some us-vs-them USA election fight?

I read that as a crazy people vs non-crazy people thing.

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

aaomidi wrote: post #50
elil17 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t really see 5G solving rural broadband issues. You still need to lay backhaul line from the node Bs, and 5G requires more of them, so it’s not orders of magnitude cheaper than running cable to home.

A lot of rural areas have backbone just fine. It's the last mile that's the issue. You can find gigabit business internet basically anywhere.

Woah, that's an enormous sweeping generalization.

I have a friend whose parents live in rural Kansas who to this day can't get more than dialup or satellite, even though they've called up every single semi-local ISP (way more than once) and said they'd be willing to pay for installation. At this point, they have more than $20K saved for the chance that some company says maybe.

It's simply way more complicated than you're making it out to be.

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Post by dylan604 »

swebs wrote: post #48
Latty wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scott Adams seems to be pretty divorced from reality, so I would take his ideas with a pinch of salt. (To clarify: He's also claimed that if Biden wins the election, Republicans will literally be hunted in the streets, and I think regardless of your political views that is pretty clearly not actually going to happen, so his ability to predict future events with any accuracy isn't something I'd trust. Source: https://…

Does every thread really have to turn into some us-vs-them USA election fight?

In this context, it does go to show Scott's not a very valid future predictor.

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Post by cptskippy »

kungato wrote: post #75
Havoc wrote: post #73

>5G for cars to communicate with each other That's pretty good news. Even a simple "sharp braking" type coms between cars has decent potential to save lives beyond what can be achieved with radar & the like.

How do you avoid bad actors in these scenarios? Sounds ripe for general havoc, targeting specific people etc

Yeah, I could see someone have button to transmit hard braking on demand for tailgaters.
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