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5G Just Got Weird

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As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed.

5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved using a huge variety of new technologies. For instance, with beamforming, the tower sends a directional signal to your phone based on its location instead of broadcasting an omnidirectional signal. This uses less power and supports for more users.

What consumers see is much higher data rates for the same price, which doesn’t seem that important. But on the industrial side, there will be offerings that allow for low data rate, low power applications at cheaper and cheaper prices.

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> Private Networks

> [...]At those scales, 5G could function essentially like Wi-Fi networks.

Now that's going to get interesting, I hope. Will we finally see a reliable alternative to 802.11?

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post #2

As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed. 5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved us…

> But on the industrial side, there will be offerings that allow for low data rate, low power applications at cheaper and cheaper prices.

oh great, now my appliances can phone home even without connecting to a wifi network.

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post #2

As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed. 5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved us…

> But on the industrial side, there will be offerings that allow for low data rate, low power applications at cheaper and cheaper prices. oh great, now my appliances can phone home even without connecting to a wifi network.

Just add a SIM card. I've always wondered why they don't put one in the smart TVs, then they could eavesdrop on you all day long. Maybe they'll finally do it now.

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post #2

As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed. 5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved us…

> What consumers see is much higher data rates for the same price, which doesn’t seem that important.

I think this is in part due to data caps. Nobody takes advantage of the speed, because that could mean burning an entire month's worth of data in 10 minutes.

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But on the industrial side, there will be offerings that allow for low data rate, low power applications at cheaper and cheaper prices. oh great, now my appliances can phone home even without connecting to a wifi network.

Just add a SIM card. I've always wondered why they don't put one in the smart TVs, then they could eavesdrop on you all day long. Maybe they'll finally do it now.

There is little point when there is already a huge incentive for customers to connect their smart TV to the internet (ie the "smart" features).

However you do already see some devices include a sim card. Home "smart" meters for the south of England operate this way. I believe some cars do to.

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As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed. 5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved us…

> As I’ve learned more and more about 5G

Out of curiousity, what's a good source of information on 5G? I assume the standard itself is not the easiest thing to digest so I'd appreciate your input.

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post #2

As I’ve learned more and more about 5G (which is a nebulous term, really, but what I mean specifically is the planned upcoming releases of LTE 16 and 17, as well as the features of LTE 14 and 15 that users have yet to take advantage of) I’ve become convinced that it’s going to transform how so much of the world is designed. 5G technologies allow for more devices to send more data using less power. This is achieved us…

> What consumers see is much higher data rates for the same price, which doesn’t seem that important. I think this is in part due to data caps. Nobody takes advantage of the speed, because that could mean burning an entire month's worth of data in 10 minutes.

In circumstances where there is such a thing as a "month's worth of data".

Which is still a lot of places, but you can get truly unlimited contracts in some places now, for reasonable amounts.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But on the industrial side, there will be offerings that allow for low data rate, low power applications at cheaper and cheaper prices. oh great, now my appliances can phone home even without connecting to a wifi network.

Just add a SIM card. I've always wondered why they don't put one in the smart TVs, then they could eavesdrop on you all day long. Maybe they'll finally do it now.

There's enough operator deployed wifi around for that already in most countries, so they don't need it.
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