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Re: Firefox Voice

#61

I don't understand the utility of it. Yes, I can see how this might be considered cool and hip, but.. which my problem as a user does it solve, exactly?

I regularly encounter people relying on voice-to-text to search or browser. especially people like cab drivers, but also various others who don't have the no- hands restriction.

It's not the kind of people I would expect to comment here, though.

Re: Firefox Voice

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I'm guessing you are using the beta or nightly channel. Am I correct?

No, stable. Oh, and they decided about:config is off-limits too for stable users.

I have both installed on this phone and that does not appear to be the case

Re: Firefox Voice

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I built something like this 7 years ago, it's called Hands Free for Chrome, a now languishing project that I lost interest in a long time ago, unfortunately. It made the top 10 of HN back then though! My site's design is not nearly as nice as yours. https://www.handsfreechrome.com/ I just didn't get enough users or support to really care about it. But I wish you the best. It was an exciting thing to build and using i…

Never saw yours before, but I discovered "Handsfree for Web" a few months after I started - and thought he had ripped mine off. But I no longer think so. Yes, seems like many commands are the same. Shame that so much wheel reinvention is going on. One thing that makes LipSurf "special" is the deep integration with sites. I wanted to use Duolingo, Reddit, HN and some others more with voice - so they get special plugin…

Has this replaced your full time job?

Re: Firefox Voice

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No, stable. Oh, and they decided about:config is off-limits too for stable users.

I have both installed on this phone and that does not appear to be the case

Then you probably haven't been updated yet on stable. You can check r/firefox and everyone else there reports the same thing.

Re: Firefox Voice

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No, stable. Oh, and they decided about:config is off-limits too for stable users.

I have both installed on this phone and that does not appear to be the case

Maybe they're only rolling it out for some users. I got it too and it was updated through some kind of internal update manager, not through the app store. Deleted my browsing history as well.

Re: Firefox Voice

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Yeah, Mozilla is not what it used to be. I guess it's just wishful thinking that makes it so easy to forget.

They just pushed an update on android on me that disabled all addons except uBO because they don't support them yet, a few hours ago. That was the last straw that broke the camels back for me, after using FF since 1.0. Just rm -rf'd my firefox profile on my desktop a few minutes ago. I've defended them for a long time even if I didn't agree with everything they did, but they're so completely off the rails, enough is…

The new Firefox for Android (aka "Fenix") supports extensions that just uBlock Origin. It supports the following at this time, with more coming soon:

  uBlock Origin
  Dark Reader
  HTTPS Everywhere
  Privacy Badger
  NoScript Security Suite
  Decentraleyes
  Search by Image
  YouTube High Definition
  Privacy Possum
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/07/28/mozillas-next-gen-f...

Re: Firefox Voice

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They just pushed an update on android on me that disabled all addons except uBO because they don't support them yet, a few hours ago. That was the last straw that broke the camels back for me, after using FF since 1.0. Just rm -rf'd my firefox profile on my desktop a few minutes ago. I've defended them for a long time even if I didn't agree with everything they did, but they're so completely off the rails, enough is…

The writing's been on the wall for a while now. I call it "The Mozilla Shuffle". Power features start out built into the menu. Then they get pushed to settings. Then they go to a key in about:config. Then you have to make the key yourself. Then they start ignoring the key but there's an extension that puts support back. Then the functionality which runs the extension gets disabled but if you're really determined you…

Wow, that's extremely accurate! Disabling the tab bar has also went this exact route (when you use a tiling wm with tabs, some people like to disable browser and terminal tabs as it's redundant)

I managed to do it with a combination of two extensions, some about:config flags and userChrome.css some years ago, but it may already be broken by now.

Mozilla keeps trying to get to the mainstream market while ignoring its dedicated users... The only times I got people to switch over to firefox was because things like ublock support on android. Nobody I've talked to has ever been interested in their side products (Pocket, that file transfer thing...), and something tells me this new voice engine is going to go the same route.

OTOH it's nice Mozilla is working on improving their voice dataset (which powers the DeepSpeech model, iirc). And again kind of sad they use Google Cloud while they could have their own version...

Re: Firefox Voice

#69
Just another useless gimmick that you try once, then never bother to use again. Imagine talking to your browser at work.

Re: Firefox Voice

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The writing's been on the wall for a while now. I call it "The Mozilla Shuffle". Power features start out built into the menu. Then they get pushed to settings. Then they go to a key in about:config. Then you have to make the key yourself. Then they start ignoring the key but there's an extension that puts support back. Then the functionality which runs the extension gets disabled but if you're really determined you…

Wow, that's extremely accurate! Disabling the tab bar has also went this exact route (when you use a tiling wm with tabs, some people like to disable browser and terminal tabs as it's redundant) I managed to do it with a combination of two extensions, some about:config flags and userChrome.css some years ago, but it may already be broken by now. Mozilla keeps trying to get to the mainstream market while ignoring its…

Frankly it started going downhill when they jumped headfirst into the version number dick-measuring contest with Chrome. They care about pulling in new users, not keeping old ones. Anything to make a news headline and generate clicks and downloads. Some asshat feature one percent of their users will try one time and then never touch again. Disembowling their feature set to make a benchmark run five percent faster so they can make a graph with the biggest bar. Moral grandstanding about Google so a couple tech sites give them a mention.

It makes me so angry. Firefox was the chosen one. It slew the evil giant IE. Then Mr.moneybags Chrome came around and scared Mozilla so shitless they completely forgot why people chose them over IE in the first place. Their solution to every problem is "be more like Chrome while being less like Google".

Newsflash, Mozilla: you really suck at that. Maybe try something else.

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