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Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

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Re: Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

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It's worth constantly re-iterating that Vine [1] was shutdown by Twitter in 2017 back when Twitter was losing a lot of cash. It was available for any tech company to purchase for pennies on the dollar and was losing $10 million/month to run [2]. Vine was very popular and a lot of people were very disappointed when it was shutdown. It predated TikTok and Musical.ly and certainly had the vast majority of users for shor…

TikTok is clearly the superior service. It would be a travesty if Twitter managed to steal it thanks to Trump's machinations.

Re: Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

#62

It's worth constantly re-iterating that Vine [1] was shutdown by Twitter in 2017 back when Twitter was losing a lot of cash. It was available for any tech company to purchase for pennies on the dollar and was losing $10 million/month to run [2]. Vine was very popular and a lot of people were very disappointed when it was shutdown. It predated TikTok and Musical.ly and certainly had the vast majority of users for shor…

How heavily leveraged are M&As on this scale?

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The United States' brand is that we are an open, dynamic, stable place to do business in. If you have capital its safe here because of our respect of the rule of law, and private property rights. We should strive to be the best place on earth to do business in. We are an open country and we benefit from being open. We benefit from competition. We are literally richer by definition - when business like TikTok choose t…

Capital is only safe in the US if you respect it's economic, technological, and military primacy. Ask Russia or Iran if they would be willing to store their wealth in the US. Iran's on a permanent blacklist for nationalising US economic interests and challenging American military influence in the middle East, and Russia too for daring to use its military on Ukraine in a world where only the US has the prerogative to invade other countries.

China's different from those two in that they've been exceptionally careful not to spark a shooting war and to keep enough profits flowing to US companies for the past few decades to keep them placated. But now China's shaking off the leash by building up an indigenous high tech ecosystem that can challenge the US and trying to be the dominant military power in East Asia. Any country that challenges the US can expect its wealth confiscated.

Don't expect the current situation to defuse anytime soon. China's goal to be technologically independent eats into the profit margins and future R&D expenditures of US high tech industries, and China's goal to be the military leader of East Asia threatens America's post WW2 influence over Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and the Philippines. Both countries want what they believe to be their fair share of the world, but the sum adds up to more than 100%. Both countries also believe they'll be the winner in the end. What better powderkeg could you ask for? Someone will have to give ground at the negotiating table eventually, but that'll only happen when both sides agree on what the actual balance of power between them is and it might take a war to find out.

Re: Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

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> adding a news feed algorithm to keep up with a competitor would not have been that hard I'm not convinced this is true. TikTok's algorithmic "For You Page" is astonishingly good. Somehow TikTok manages to zero in on stuff relevant to users extremely quickly, and without relying on spamming a lot of general interest popular content. I created a TikTok account recently and literally within minutes I was getting an ex…

Try opening YouTube in an incognito tab and start watching a few videos (on say, cooking). You'll notice the recommended videos on the homepage gets very accurate very fast. The algorithms behind recommendation engines are well understood. Companies can and do invest huge amounts into making their algorithms better and it yes, it definitely takes a lot of effort to tweak and refine the algorithm to make the overall e…

I find the YouTube algorithms to be a little repetitive. They pidgenhole you into interests, or sub-interests within a larger field (some narrow take on a topic), then they suggest small variations on the same crap again and again. It's very easy to feel stuck within a bubble on YouTube. When I notice that happening, the site becomes very boring.

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The United States' brand is that we are an open, dynamic, stable place to do business in. If you have capital its safe here because of our respect of the rule of law, and private property rights. We should strive to be the best place on earth to do business in. We are an open country and we benefit from being open. We benefit from competition. We are literally richer by definition - when business like TikTok choose t…

Yes. This will give a lot of countries incentives to be economic nationalists. For example, a country could lever a prohibitively high tax for all ads on an American social network. This is why Zuckerberg is now concerned about the Tiktok ban setting a bad precedent for other countries. [1]

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-tik...

Re: Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try opening YouTube in an incognito tab and start watching a few videos (on say, cooking). You'll notice the recommended videos on the homepage gets very accurate very fast. The algorithms behind recommendation engines are well understood. Companies can and do invest huge amounts into making their algorithms better and it yes, it definitely takes a lot of effort to tweak and refine the algorithm to make the overall e…

Twitter does not appear to have a recommendation algorithm worth a damn.

Content, no. Ads, when it really counts ($), yes.

Re: Twitter, TikTok Have Held Preliminary Talks About Possible Combination

#69

The United States' brand is that we are an open, dynamic, stable place to do business in. If you have capital its safe here because of our respect of the rule of law, and private property rights. We should strive to be the best place on earth to do business in. We are an open country and we benefit from being open. We benefit from competition. We are literally richer by definition - when business like TikTok choose t…

And US tech companies will be the big loser, if the other countries are going to apply the same national security argument to themselves.

Who would they sacrifice then? Obviously, it will be the Big Techs.

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#70

The United States' brand is that we are an open, dynamic, stable place to do business in. If you have capital its safe here because of our respect of the rule of law, and private property rights. We should strive to be the best place on earth to do business in. We are an open country and we benefit from being open. We benefit from competition. We are literally richer by definition - when business like TikTok choose t…

Capital is only safe in the US if you respect it's economic, technological, and military primacy. Ask Russia or Iran if they would be willing to store their wealth in the US. Iran's on a permanent blacklist for nationalising US economic interests and challenging American military influence in the middle East, and Russia too for daring to use its military on Ukraine in a world where only the US has the prerogative to…

I read somewhere that it is difficult to get money out of China if you set up a business there, BMW/VW have been denied withdrawal of funds from China since 2016.

At that rate, China seems like a pretty poor place to put your money. Doesn't matter if their domestic technological pace is impressive.

Can anyone honestly think that in 10 years, they would trust the CCP enough to buy property or invest there?

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