if your concern is corona, there's no need to do any of this for most people, most of the time (i.e., not a front-line worker). the likelihood of getting live corona on the mask is pretty low, and any corona that does get on the mask will die naturally overnight. certain situations like going to a party might warrant it, but in that case, just throw the mask away and use a new one next time. if you're more worried ab…
And the reasons people ask for citations is what you are saying is very misleading. The CDC estimates that 45% of US Adults fall into these increased risk categories. So no, it's not just people fighting off cancer it's almost half the country. > We estimated that 45.4% of US adults are at increased risk for complications from coronavirus disease because of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, respiratory disease, hyper…
Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
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#821) Not a single study has demonstrated that viable Sars-Cov-2 virus survives on porous materials in the real world
2) Even before Covid, it was known for decades (common medical knowledge) that human coronaviruses and flu viruses do not remain viable on porous materials for more than several hours.
That this common knowledge is not so common knowledge among the public is a failure of public health communication. The one or two alarmist studies showing that the virus "survives" X number of days don't reflect the real world because 1) the researchers literally directly douse or soak the surface with a huge viral load, and 2) the researchers usually only look for viral genetic material, not whether the virus can infect cells. Viability != detecting viral genetic material (same story for people - we shed viral genetic material long after we stop being contagious).
There is a reason the CDC has always said surface transmission is rare: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-to...; there have been no documented cases of surface transmission: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-si... Fortunately some in the media are catching on to the hygiene (security) theater: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/scourge-hy...
Citations for 1) and 2):
Most studies use unrealistic starting doses: https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/laninf/PIIS1473-3099...
Other human coronaviruses don't survive long on porous surfaces (gone by 6 hours): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7134510/. A hospital randomly collected patient and real surface swabs (including non-porous surfaces) for original SARS, a minority were PCR positive, none of the swabs were infectious (viral culture): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7134510/. Same story for flu (virus can be detected for days, but inactive and not viable after a few hours): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3222642/.
I could only find this study on Sars-Cov-2 that cultured the virus (still used a huge viral dose in a lab setting, not the real world). Even though they were able to culture the virus, only 1% of virus remains after 6 hours on a surgical mask, several orders of magnitude less for cotton clothing: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.07.20094805v...
This long post was originally meant to be a reply to someone asking for a citation; it's yet another example of how much effort is required to combat misinformation.
Re: Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
#83My family has been decontaminating our N95 masks with ozone. I bought a battery-operated O3 generator and if you place it into a tupperware container along with the mask, it will decontaminate it and then you can use it the next day. Yale School of Medicine has done a study on the efficacy of this method. [1] I prefer this method because it doesn't degrade the mask at all, it needs no disinfecting/harsh chemicals, it…
Just picked up an ozone generator and looking forward to using it on my masks and shoe cabinet.
Re: Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
#84My family has been decontaminating our N95 masks with ozone. I bought a battery-operated O3 generator and if you place it into a tupperware container along with the mask, it will decontaminate it and then you can use it the next day. Yale School of Medicine has done a study on the efficacy of this method. [1] I prefer this method because it doesn't degrade the mask at all, it needs no disinfecting/harsh chemicals, it…
Can you please link your portable ozone generator? Or at least what the name/brand is? Is it something like this? https://www.boneview.com/collections/boneview/products/ozone
Re: Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
#85Related: can anyone explain why there are still no n95 masks available? It seems like, a few months in, it's surprising that there are none available for non-medical buyers. Is this perception wrong?
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not widely available to non-medical buyers because they're still not easily attainable for medical buyers. N95s aren't the easiest thing to manufacturer, so ramping up production to fully satisfy current demand would require a significant investment in time and capital. Companies aren't going to do that without some certainty that they'll actually be able to sell enough of their extra production to cover the…
I don't understand why governments haven't made the contracts and guarantees to ensure increased global production over the long-term (not just for Covid-19). We're going to need a much higher rate of production for years to come, yet everybody keeps thinking "Next month! It'll all be over next month!". I'm tired of this shit, and I'm tired of governments thinking so short-sightedly. The EU alone could make a huge di…
Re: Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
#87Related: can anyone explain why there are still no n95 masks available? It seems like, a few months in, it's surprising that there are none available for non-medical buyers. Is this perception wrong?
They're not widely available to non-medical buyers because they're still not easily attainable for medical buyers. N95s aren't the easiest thing to manufacturer, so ramping up production to fully satisfy current demand would require a significant investment in time and capital. Companies aren't going to do that without some certainty that they'll actually be able to sell enough of their extra production to cover the…
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#88Organic debris in warm humid environment created by breathing is an ideal breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. Which can easily cause much more serious illness than COVID.
Heating and using any other methods of decontamination do not remove the debris from the filter. The masks have to be discarded after a couple hours of use, period.
Re: Electric cooker an easy, efficient way to sanitize N95 masks, study finds
#89Related: can anyone explain why there are still no n95 masks available? It seems like, a few months in, it's surprising that there are none available for non-medical buyers. Is this perception wrong?