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Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong

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Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong

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Don't have iOS. But I do wish that Android with detect the current language you are writing in. I have 3 languages on my keyboard and sometimes it suggests an autocomplete in the wrong language.

I have German, English and Polish and it works perfectly.

Not so great with Dutch, French and English though.

Weird

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I can never make iOS write “Hong Kong” when swipe-typing; tried setting up forced text replacement entry (kong->Kong) to zero effect. It is always “Hong kong”.

Weird - just tried it and ir capitalised it correctly. I'm on the ios14 public beta, though.

That’s good news! I’m on iOS 13, wasn’t able to find a way to install the beta yet (not a registered iOS developer myself).

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When it comes to machine learning, the subtlety here is that there are at least two sides or facets to machine learning: (1) training and (2) inference. It's fair to say that there are multiple areas for AI leadership. It is generally believed that: Model Creation (1) Those with the access to the best (which is not necessarily the most, but often believed to be) data have a strong starting point for training models;…

But can you lead in (2) without being good at (1)? If you train on limited data, then your inferences will be of poor quality, even if they have low latency. So in sum, it seems you can't be a leader in ML without both.

You can lead in (2) with good enough (1).

Being a leader in (1) does not mean you'll be good at (2), and vice versa.

There's also a difference between limited data and good enough data.

If you train on good enough data, you can have good enough models.

If people believe the focus of AI/ML should just be precision/recall, or other measures of accuracy, and having tons of data, they're missing many other areas and elements for what make AI/ML successful in application.

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> ... in the era of weapons-grade language models? Just an aside: Although common perception is that "weapons-grade" refers to the highest quality, in reality it refers to the lowest-possible quality that meets the bare minimum requirements!

So? That’s what every standard means: “anything just barely over the minimum that the standard specifies”. That can definitely be wonderful and impressive if the standard is high to begin with. You might as well refer to the bronze medal as “just barely enough to be in the awards ceremony”. Is that supposed to be clever somehow?

> Is that supposed to be clever somehow?

I thought the parent comment was mildly interesting. There's no need to be so combative.

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It's a shame that Apple doesn't have an industrial research lab; it certainly has the funding to create a lab that would rival Microsoft Research or perhaps even legendary labs like Xerox PARC and Bell Labs. Apple used to have a lab: during the "interregnum" years of 1985 to 1997, Apple had a fantastic research group called the Advanced Technology Group, led by the late Larry Tesler. In some ways this group was a sor…

Has the culture of secrecy benefited them at all since the launch of the iPhone?

I think the answer to that question is yes.

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I have German, English and Polish and it works perfectly.

Not so great with Dutch, French and English though. Weird

I was very surprised with how good it actually was for Polish.

It's a hard language and not as good covered usually with ML as English or German is.

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Setting aside all the other work Apple is doing in this area, can someone explain why iMessage autocorrect is unacceptably bad (to put it diplomatically) in the era of weapons-grade language models? Its behavior is totally bizarre. It’s like an underpowered chess engine that makes flagrant blunders: capitalizing random words in the middle of a sentence (rock -> Rock), the context sensitivity of an actual rock, forcin…

The swipe keyboard is atrocious too, I simply cannot swipe the word ‘you’ with any reliability. It becomes tut, or töre. Töre. Instead of the second most common pronoun in the entire English language.

Somehow swiping keyboards have gotten worse since the original launch of "swype" a decade ago. It's gotten terrible after they were bought by Nuance, and none of the alternatives match up to what it once was.

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So? That’s what every standard means: “anything just barely over the minimum that the standard specifies”. That can definitely be wonderful and impressive if the standard is high to begin with. You might as well refer to the bronze medal as “just barely enough to be in the awards ceremony”. Is that supposed to be clever somehow?

> Is that supposed to be clever somehow? I thought the parent comment was mildly interesting. There's no need to be so combative.

Pointing out tautologies that only sound convincing because of misleading phrases, isn't interesting.

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> Is that supposed to be clever somehow? I thought the parent comment was mildly interesting. There's no need to be so combative.

Pointing out tautologies that only sound convincing because of misleading phrases, isn't interesting.

You aren't the gatekeeper of what can and can't be considered interesting.

FWIW, your comment above (about standards) was also mildly interesting to me. I hadn't really given the phrase much thought.

There was no need to be rude about it though.

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The reason iOS type correction is so piss-poor is, to me at least, because it is not a 'typing' correction mechanism, it is pronunciation correction system. It bases it's auto replace on what the letters appear to be saying or sound like, and NOT, as it should, which would be simply and effectively based on typos on a qwerty keyboard. That is why. And it is like this because Apple want to steal your voice and 'prefer…

The weird part is in my experience their "swift" input works miles better than the regular tapping. It's truly odd. Tapping I have to correct the phone all the time, while using swift (with the same keyboard!) I quite rarely do.

Is 'swift' 'swipe to type'? Yes, I find swipe to type surprisingly more efficient than the 21st century's first attempt of tapping on glass.
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