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Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands

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Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands

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Sounds like a similar feature (“Sound Recognition”) that is coming in iOS 14. https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-14-preview/features/

It’s not clear from the article but I assume the Google implementation was pushed out to users and turned on by default (likely without a notification that the device would now start doing this). Since the iOS feature is listed under “Accessibility” I would assume that it’s opt-in.

Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands

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I unplugged my Google Home Mini long back because of this unethical spying.

I've unplugged mine too but saying it's spying is mincing words a bit.

I highly doubt they care what individuals say in their home but probably care a lot more about what your demographic talks about, watches on TV, listens to on the radio and any other data they can glean from sound.

Think about it, distinct actions make certain sounds, (i.e. from washing dishes to sleeping)

They probably have a lot more of a complete picture of your home than you realise.

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These findings of Google spyware is getting pretty boring. I feel sorry for whoever is Google's Chief Privacy Officer to defend all these privacy violations in their own products. They must be facing daily privacy investigations at this point.

Another day another Google listening device article. Get ready to comment on the next one.

Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands

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One company controlling all these electronics in my house. How do people not find that disturbing?

There’s so many things I find disturbing that whether my is Google speaker is listening to me doesn’t even crack the Top 10.

What’s the negative outcome? I don’t believe this is the start of an inevitable slippery slope decline into a Big Brother surveillance state.

Yeah maybe they’ll get more data and target ads better, but that’s a good thing. I want to know about products that might interest me and then buy them!

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These findings of Google spyware is getting pretty boring. I feel sorry for whoever is Google's Chief Privacy Officer to defend all these privacy violations in their own products. They must be facing daily privacy investigations at this point. Another day another Google listening device article. Get ready to comment on the next one.

Google, without notice, intentionally started listening to something that wasn't a wake word (glass breaking). How is this 'pretty boring'?

Re: Google speakers are listening to more than just voice commands

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One company controlling all these electronics in my house. How do people not find that disturbing?

There’s so many things I find disturbing that whether my is Google speaker is listening to me doesn’t even crack the Top 10. What’s the negative outcome? I don’t believe this is the start of an inevitable slippery slope decline into a Big Brother surveillance state. Yeah maybe they’ll get more data and target ads better, but that’s a good thing. I want to know about products that might interest me and then buy them!

you can't imagine the problem of having your private conversations recorded, then a business compelled to release them without a warrant? You can't imagine what inferences might be made about your personal conversations and sold to others? I do not think you are giving the words you say enough credit.

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How could people on HN be surprised about that kind of thing ?

We would all be surprised if it turns out that a giant corporation who sells you always-on networked microphones wasn't abusing it in any way, shape or form. Here's a slippery slope for you: 1. "OK Google, order pizza from Sal's." 2. "Broken glass detected in living room. Should I call police?" 3. "The baby has been crying for more than 60 minutes. Do you want assistance?" 4. "Shots fired. Calling 911 now." 2016-2020…

> Logic and critical thinking textbooks typically discuss slippery slope arguments as a form of fallacy but usually acknowledge that "slippery slope arguments can be good ones if the slope is real—that is, if there is good evidence that the consequences of the initial action are highly likely to occur. The strength of the argument depends on two factors. The first is the strength of each link in the causal chain; the argument cannot be stronger than its weakest link. The second is the number of links; the more links there are, the more likely it is that other factors could alter the consequences."

Indeed, many people don't realize that accusations of committing the (or any) fallacy need to come with justifications of their own.

[1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_...

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