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TL;DR: Oatly (oat milk) is primarily sugar and canola oil. Both are bad in large quantities.
Oatley has loads of different varieties. The sugar content in the barista one is low enough that I can drink 3 flat whites a day and stay in Ketosis.
I was looking for a second opinion, and found the comment by Glenn in that article was a good counterpoint. I won't repeat it here, but another point that comes to mind is that one may use a very small amount of milk-substitute in your hot drink, compared to drinking a much larger amount of coke. So it's not perfectly comparable, even if they were equally bad.
> anyone who's tried a latte with oat milk can attest it is by far the best tasting, most milk-like alternative That's quite a bold & generalising statement. Personally I think cashew nut milk is the most milk-like alternative in terms of flavour and mouthfeel.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or almond milk, which actually tastes good compared to soy milk and oatly. If you look at men who are vegan, they are almost always weak and feminine. Maybe that's just the kind of individuals that get drawn into a vegan diet, but I think there might be something else in play.
Ah, yes, the well known "soy milk turns the frogs gay" analysis, pioneered by that universally respected paragon of factual accuracy, Alex Jones.
There is evidence that doing "manly stuff" for men, like hunting, increases testosterone production. Also a lot of food like red meat, eggs etc increases testosterone production. Something vegans don't eat.
> anyone who's tried a latte with oat milk can attest it is by far the best tasting, most milk-like alternative That's quite a bold & generalising statement. Personally I think cashew nut milk is the most milk-like alternative in terms of flavour and mouthfeel.
Notably, I found that a Soy London Fog is actually single-handedly a better drink than a milk London Fog...but it is different and if you are chasing a milk product you won’t find it.
TL;DR: Oatly (oat milk) is primarily sugar and canola oil. Both are bad in large quantities.
Oatley has loads of different varieties. The sugar content in the barista one is low enough that I can drink 3 flat whites a day and stay in Ketosis.
The difference is they add dipotassium phosphate to prevent separating when the milk hits the hot coffee.
By talking about “Low enough to stay in Ketosis” you are practicing the techniques discussed in TFA perfectly. Almost makes it sound like this special edition is lower in sugar, when it’s in fact the same sugar and higher calorie.
Oatley is no longer Swedish, it's owned by China Resources Verlinvest Health Investment Ltd, which is a partnership between an Belgian investor (Verlinvest) and the government of China (China Resources).
Due to history Oatly do have considerable market in Sweden, but swedish social media are starting to question the company due to it's ties with China and the Uyghur situation.
I have recently watched a Chinese Cooking Demystified video (I believe it was [1]) about the Chinese rapeseed oil and its comparison in taste and erucic acid contents to Canola oil, which is its only available variant in Western countries.
The video stated a thesis echoed on Wikipedia's page on Erucic acid [2]:
> Studies done on laboratory animals in the early 1970s show that erucic acid appears to have toxic effects on the heart at high enough doses. However, more recent research has cast doubt on the relevance of rat studies to the human health of erucic acid. Rats are unusual in their inability to process erucic acid, and the symptoms in rats caused by a diet with high levels of erucic acid has not been observed in pigs, primates, or any other animals.
From what I understand, all the references in the Oatly article focus on Canola oil, which is supposed to be low on erucic acid. However, the few (~3) research sources in the Oatly article that I clicked on all do rat/mouse studies. Isn't that kind of strange, considering the erucic acid rat research controversy?
The Wikipedia page on Canola oil [3] does not mention the health risks aside from the erucic acid controversy. Still, since Canola oil is such an important product, I can imagine any negative studies or claims could be contested. (Disclaimer: I have not checked the edit history of that page myself.)
To sum up, I currently have no idea if Canola oil or rapeseed oils in general are risky, healthy in reasonable doses, or something else completely. If anyone with any expertise comes around, please educate me.
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDP9t65PVsY
TL;DR: Oatly (oat milk) is primarily sugar and canola oil. Both are bad in large quantities.
The same can be said about milk - it's just sugar and fat, suspended in water. All 3 are bad in large quantities.
I don't drink dairy due to intolerance and I find it disgusting possibly for the same reason. I also don't like any milk substitute so I'm out of any target demographic anyway. However, as far as I know according to traditional Chinese medicine milk is considered a big no no.