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Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong

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I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform.

It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.

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This piece is interesting because Apple was saying this all along but no one really believed them because it sounded like excuse making. But here JG is basically saying the same thing:

>Yes, I understand this perception of bigger models in data centers somehow are more accurate, but it's actually wrong. It's actually technically wrong. It's better to run the model close to the data, rather than moving the data around. And whether that's location data—like what are you doing— [or] exercise data—what's the accelerometer doing in your phone—it's just better to be close to the source of the data, and so it's also privacy preserving.

A few years ago was when this narrative was at its peak and I believe it was mostly because Google (and to a lesser extent Facebook) were talking about machine learning and AI in basically every public communication. What came of it? Were all the people who claimed Apple's privacy stance would leave them in the dust proven right? For one, being "good at machine learning" is like saying you're good at database technology. It's a building block, not a product. Maybe Google and Facebook are doing cutting edge research in the field, but so was Xerox PARC.

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post #2

I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.

Apple photos should introduce an unlimited compressed picture upload like Google photos does

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One thing where apple is shining is brainwashing. It looks very funny when caravans of people are waiting store opening to hysterically buy an overpriced smartphone, even if it's technologically 2 years behind cheaper Samsung S20 (except chip performance, but it doesn't matter anymore, because there is no tasks that needs so much computing power)

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post #2

I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.

Apple photos should introduce an unlimited compressed picture upload like Google photos does

I mean Google is analyzing your photos for that service. You can pay for iCloud storage. I’m totally fine paying 2.99/mo for my wife and I to not worry about our backups or having space on our phones for photos.

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One thing where apple is shining is brainwashing. It looks very funny when caravans of people are waiting store opening to hysterically buy an overpriced smartphone, even if it's technologically 2 years behind cheaper Samsung S20 (except chip performance, but it doesn't matter anymore, because there is no tasks that needs so much computing power)

You’re looking for a different website.

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I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.

True, Apple has a big advantage by having a sense for the baseline-level of computing power on client devices, which is pretty high across the board.

The uniformity of UX is worth the glacial rate, IMO. The more ScrollViews with arbitrarily laid out content (Photos seems to have these increasingly), the less intuitive I find apps. In Photos, I find it hard to get a sense for what menu-depth I'm at. Apple has a very logical master-detail layout across most apps, and I hope with Mac Catalyst that Apple continues to enforce consistent UI practices.

The more freedom developers are given to put any old layout, the more apps start feeling the way Windows Forms, WPF, and UWP feels on Windows; it's like you have to start thinking about "Okay, when was this app designed?" to figure out how to use it.

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post #2

I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.

One person's slurping is another's always accessible

Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong

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One thing where apple is shining is brainwashing. It looks very funny when caravans of people are waiting store opening to hysterically buy an overpriced smartphone, even if it's technologically 2 years behind cheaper Samsung S20 (except chip performance, but it doesn't matter anymore, because there is no tasks that needs so much computing power)

> because there is no tasks that needs so much computing power

I think your own point explains why people are more than happy to use a more expensive iPhone despite technological differences.

I'm currently developing with a relatively new android phone, but I'd never use it as an actual day-to-day phone in lieu of my circa 2014 iPhone (believe me I've tried).

The extent to which I prefer the overall iPhone experience far outweighs any technological upper-hand that the android has. In the scheme of things, phone technology has barely shifted in 6 years; a supposed 2 year difference is utterly negligible.

Side note: what's the deal with the Google Play store??! I tried to download facebook messenger a few days ago for testing, and accidentally downloaded an entirely different app with a very similar name and icon as it somehow managed to occupy the top listing (ad?). Seems obscene that it's so easy to mount a phishing attack against android users.

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