Wouldn't this article be considered "misinformation" on most social media sites?
It's important information that I don't think should be censored, but it goes contrary to WHO.
A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
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Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#52Finland has roughly half Sweden's population but 5% of their COVID deaths. Sweden's economy contracted 8.6% to the EU's 11.9%. Hope those 5000+ unnecessary deaths were worth 3.3%. "Considering that 70% of those who have died of covid are over 80 years old, quite a few of those 6,000 would have died this year anyway." Wow.
It would be worse if Sweden did implement lockdown.
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#53Sweden is effectively as locked down as anywhere else. The prevalence of the virus is diminishing there because people are not going out and getting sick, rendering R_t<1. I don't participate in social distancing because my government says to, and I certainly don't stop because my government says to either.
Sweden is effectively as locked down as anywhere else. Is that true? Are all the schools closed? Are most people working from home? Are most businesses shutdown? That's not what I've read (outside this article).
But this is also not the case for all the other countries in Europe which (according to the author) have taken the wrong approach to COVID. The more I think about it the more this article confuses and worries me. It's a thinkpiece that is not grounded in the scientific reality.
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#55There is a political element to covid that is often... ignored.
You win the prize for the understatement of the century. The ideological clarity of the covid regime is sublime. All sorts of debated matters are decided, by "science", and that is that. Whether by accident or design, the covid regime , the "new normal" that MSM has been educating us about from the very beginning, is a blueprint for a global authoritarian technocracy with its own internal logic, ethics, and mores.
MSM... isn't that a nutritional supplement?
does it aid conditions of "foaming at the mouth"?
I find your usage of intellectual terms employed in a very anti-intellectual effort of a very base nature.
What, pray tell, is the ideology of a virus?
Yes, the scientific method is probably a more sensible means of deciding things than "whatever gets my knickers in a bundle".
If you are suggesting that trained medical specialists shouldn't head pandemic intervention efforts, I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree.
Your worldview elevates "the bad guys" and denigrates "the good guys" so there's your inverted logic and morality to deal with, pity, it must have been the secret chips in your childhood vaccines...
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this is how it was described in US media. "A large crowd of far-right groups gathered for a "sit-in" at Berlin's iconic Brandenburg Gate on Saturday to protest against the German government's coronavirus restrictions."
The same thing in the german press. the next demonstration will be on the 29. of august. It will be even bigger than the last one. You can fool some of the people some of the time. But you cant fool all the people all of the time.
I guess my question was - is that true? No doubt there were some far-right groups, but from what I've read it wasn't all of them.
It just seemed like an incredibly dismissive headline. "No worries, just crazy far-right doing their crazy stuff. We can safely ignore what they have to say."
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The young generation will suffer from this for a long time. Seems like the current politicians dont care about our future.
What would be the cost of not having a "failed policy"? Panic when hospitals start refusing patients?
Look at Sweden?
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#58its time to stop this! I am so proud to see my fellow germans rise up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htDrDieOgh0
Imagine the folks who lived through 10 years of World War 2, and here you are crying about wearing a mask to the supermarket.
It's such a pity that you have Trumpelstiltskins over there too. I had thought you smarter...
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#59There are a lot of highly problematic claims in the article. This one stood out to me: >Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long. Actually it might very well just be half a year until we have a vaccine. Multiple candidate vaccines are in pha…
Unfortunately, it appears that a significant chunk of people are not interested in taking the vaccine. [1] If only half of Americans are going to get the vaccine (that figure is from May polling, referenced below), we can't pin all of our hopes on it. I should note that I'm not saying it's unreasonable of people to be hesitant to take this particular vaccine, given how it is being rushed. Even scientists have said th…
Those that don’t take the vaccine will get the virus and, if they survive, similar immunity.
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#60Counter arguments:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.10.20096909v...
https://covid19-projections.com/denmark vs https://covid19-projections.com/sweden
Its also possible Sweden just got lucky with the prevalent strain https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.03.233866v1....
I would love it if Sweden was right and tackled this in a way that does look like a seasonal flu, but I think the science is still out on that. It does seem the science points mildly towards it being quite as deadly as initially thought, but I would not the Swedish death rate a total win.
Forget all that Sweden is the best approach, we should copy it in America especially the very solid social health care system :)