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P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free

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Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free

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Post by georgestephanis »

peterangular wrote: post #6
kennydude wrote: post #4

I'm sure this used to be a theme for WordPress at one point? Either way, it's really unusual how Automattic haven't released it to the public

> Can I self-host my P2? Not at the moment, but we plan to offer this option in the future. Yea - I see it as weird too. The only reason I'm still an advocate for WordPress are the self-host-ability/full customization aspects. Otherwise, you're just another Medium that's going to take my data and use it against me. Honestly, I wouldn't touch this until Automattic publishes the code. To a old-timer who's been leveragi…

Further context from a friend: https://wptavern.com/automattic-relaunches-p2-self-hosted-ve...

Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free

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Post by sneak »

SaaS advertising for a closed source/proprietary, hosted, PHP app. No mention of end to end crypto, so third party doctrine applies to all your communications, including DMs. Your chatops are only as secure as their hosted auth system, which you can’t review or audit.

I don’t think the world needs more things like this.

Give me something open source that I can hack on, or run on my own machine, ideally in a modern language.

This feels like too little, too late, in a world already cluttered by shiny, hosted tools that offer you zero privacy from the hosting provider (which you can’t change).

A company that does things like this can’t really be said to have a commitment to free software. Free software is like veganism or respect for the rule of law in society: it’s not something you do sometimes, when you feel like it. Either you believe in software freedom, or you do not.

You should not be writing source code that you expect your customers to use but not be able to read and modify.

Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free

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Post by easton »

This looks really neat! Can anyone shine a light on what makes this different/better than Basecamp (other than being custom built for the way Automattic works, which is obviously a selling point for them). My understanding is that Basecamp does a lot of these things, although it’s not self-hosted.

Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free

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Post by vosper »

georgestephanis wrote: post #10
tootie wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea here (I think) is that this is meant for use within an enterprise. Like a corporate wiki, but organized more like an aggregator site. I've seen a few similar products that were like enterprise facebook or enterprise twitter. They are sorta useful, but it's hard to get enough engagement to be worthwhile. Your company needs at least a few thousand people in order for them to generate enough content to keep peo…

For context, a8c started using a prior version of p2 like eleven or twelve years ago, when we were positively dozens of people. We have smaller p2s for teams of three to four people. tl;dr: nah, doesn't need thousands of people to be useful.

"a8c" is Automattic (makers of Wordpress) for anyone who was confused.

Obligatory "Mean Girls" ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pubd-spHN-0

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