P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
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Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#2I don't get it. Looks like a regular news wall with endless scrolling and comments expanded.
Except anybody can post an announcement on top? and the previous ones disappear under the constant flow?
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#3Now I'm at one of the big tech companies that is suddenly all-remote. I miss P2. It gives you a place where ideas can "stick" much better than with async chat, email, or wikis. At the top-level (per-team or per-project) P2s feel like much more than just another wiki aggregation page. You actually want to visit them to catch up on the latest.
The per-post threaded conversations promote more thoughtful, ongoing discussion. These naturally fade over time as new posts are made, a bit like HN or reddit. Generally this is a useful, organic default, and complements (rather than replaces) async chat.
It can be overwhelming once you're interested in tracking many P2s. But you can address this with discipline, culture, and more tools.
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#4Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#5There is a live demo here https://p2customers.p2.blog/ I don't get it. Looks like a regular news wall with endless scrolling and comments expanded. Except anybody can post an announcement on top? and the previous ones disappear under the constant flow?
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#6I'm sure this used to be a theme for WordPress at one point? Either way, it's really unusual how Automattic haven't released it to the public
Yea - I see it as weird too. The only reason I'm still an advocate for WordPress are the self-host-ability/full customization aspects. Otherwise, you're just another Medium that's going to take my data and use it against me.
Honestly, I wouldn't touch this until Automattic publishes the code. To a old-timer who's been leveraging WP for well over a decade: ew.
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#7I'm sure this used to be a theme for WordPress at one point? Either way, it's really unusual how Automattic haven't released it to the public
This version is also a theme and will be released for self hosting in future too.
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#8Company culture is also important to making it work, in my mind. p2 is viewed as the source of truth for many conversations (including meeting notes and summaries of slack conversations), which is part of how it works. Additionally, anyone across the company is empowered to post on any p2 to start conversations, ask questions, or kickstart lengthy, technical discussions.
In response to another commenter, Automattic has been using p2 as its main form of async internal communication for years before it even hit 1k employees, so it's not the kind of thing which requires a ton of people to work. Once a few hundred people using it as the main form of async conversation, there is certainly more content than any one person can consume. :)
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#9I used to work at WordPress.com (Automattic) after they acquired our startup Simplenote. P2 was great. Now I'm at one of the big tech companies that is suddenly all-remote. I miss P2. It gives you a place where ideas can "stick" much better than with async chat, email, or wikis. At the top-level (per-team or per-project) P2s feel like much more than just another wiki aggregation page. You actually want to visit them…
Re: P2 powers internal collaboration at WordPress.com, and is now free
#10There is a live demo here https://p2customers.p2.blog/ I don't get it. Looks like a regular news wall with endless scrolling and comments expanded. Except anybody can post an announcement on top? and the previous ones disappear under the constant flow?
The idea here (I think) is that this is meant for use within an enterprise. Like a corporate wiki, but organized more like an aggregator site. I've seen a few similar products that were like enterprise facebook or enterprise twitter. They are sorta useful, but it's hard to get enough engagement to be worthwhile. Your company needs at least a few thousand people in order for them to generate enough content to keep peo…
tl;dr: nah, doesn't need thousands of people to be useful.