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Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by dunnevens »

kozak wrote: post #45

I am puzzled why there are no widely available laptop-like cases for the Raspberry Pi, especially considering that now there is a 8 GB version of it. "pi‑top [3]" came close, but it was somewhat childish and apparently it's not sold anymore.

Part of the problem is how thick the Pi's are. They're small computers on their own. But in a laptop case, they're chunky. Much thicker than your average off-the-shelf laptop. Plus, there's still rough edges when trying to use them as desktops. The Pi Zero would work in terms of size, but is very underpowered for desktops. The Pi Compute would probably be the perfect fit, but that hasn't been updated in a rather long time. Also underpowered.

So I can see why there's not much of a market. The hobbyists are largely doing something other than standard desktop use, and the people who need laptops (even cheap ones) are better served with something off-the-shelf. The best bet for the future are the handful of laptop-style docks coming out. Just plug your phone or pi into one of the external ports and go.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by Panino »

verytrivial wrote: post #54
Fnoord wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't find the OpenBSD page ugly at all. I find it efficient (and I'm currently not an OpenBSD user or developer). If you would like to see ugly pages, there's probably a Geocities mirror up somewhere which one can browse through for an ample amount of examples. A more accurate, descriptive word is, I believe, pre Web 2.0 (or Web 1.0?).

The LibreSSL pages, which are clearly familial, for a long time included "This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters". That the design speaks to you says they've got the tone just about right. :-)

That quote refers to the intentional use of Comic Sans, not the overall site design. The OpenBSD project is semi-famous for intentionally using Comic Sans to repel people who seem to be more interested in fonts than in writing code.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by jszymborski »

jhomedall wrote: post #55
verytrivial wrote: post #21

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

The first two paragraphs seem to summarize the project fairly well. The text itself also appears to be fairly well organized. I haven't watched the video itself (I'm browsing this between compiles and integration test runs), but I certainly can't find any fault with the textual side of things.

The page is ostensibly a transcript of the video.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by cxr »

Panino wrote: post #60
verytrivial wrote: post #21

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

> purposefully ugly I've been using OpenBSD for about 20 years so I feel like I can talk about this issue. If you browse web.archive.org for old copies of the www.openbsd.org site, you'll notice that the current design is from many years ago, back when lots of websites looked like that. It appears that the current design is from around the year 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20010118233800/http://www.openbs... And…

> I've been using OpenBSD for about 20 years so I feel like I can talk about this issue. [...] you'll notice that the current design is from many years ago, back when lots of websites looked like that

If you view the source for www.openbsd.org, it reveals that it's not a matter of the site being a holdover from the time it was made, as so many replies are saying. It uses modern markup, such as header, nav, article, and footer.

OP was referring to a conscious philosophy that has been espoused by OpenBSD folks. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9240906

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by RandomBacon »

rimliu wrote: post #35
tomcooks wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather have a thick phone than a slim chance of not being tracked. I'll build mine with a metal casing and a GPS for outdoor shenanigans, as sturdy as an AK-47 and as thick as the SCIP

Are you going to build your own cell towers too?

The top-level comment that was being replied to already specified "radio with kill-switch"

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

jascii wrote: post #51

I'm a bit saddened by the lack of built in keyboard in this iteration. I see the modular bit, but it kinda takes away from the "terminal in your pocket" idea.

The sliding keyboard in the video is only like half a centimeter thick; plenty of room in your pocket with for the unit and attached module.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by verytrivial »

Panino wrote: post #60
verytrivial wrote: post #21

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

> purposefully ugly I've been using OpenBSD for about 20 years so I feel like I can talk about this issue. If you browse web.archive.org for old copies of the www.openbsd.org site, you'll notice that the current design is from many years ago, back when lots of websites looked like that. It appears that the current design is from around the year 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20010118233800/http://www.openbs... And…

> I've noticed in this thread that you're making low-effort, kind of rude posts about an important project

I'm sorry if it came across like that. I didn't put this comment there to upset you or anyone, but this happens. I was referring to what appeared to be a design choices in how some projects present themselves to the world, not as a judgement around how important they are. I watched the whole video (with some skipping) for this post. My point was many people might not given the design choices made in how it was presented. I guess "important" projects don't even need to be popular or accessible to do what they need or want to do, and I was simply musing. e.g. You have an explanation for why OpenBSD presents itself they way it does because you are convinced of its value, so you see something different when you look at the homepage vs how ... nearly all? ... other people might see it. My point was is looks like it was designed by engineers with more important matters to think about, but that's some encoding not available to everyone. (And maybe that's okay, hence a small moat around the project.)

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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Post by [deleted] »

Panino wrote: post #60
verytrivial wrote: post #21

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

> purposefully ugly I've been using OpenBSD for about 20 years so I feel like I can talk about this issue. If you browse web.archive.org for old copies of the www.openbsd.org site, you'll notice that the current design is from many years ago, back when lots of websites looked like that. It appears that the current design is from around the year 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20010118233800/http://www.openbs... And…

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