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OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by danlugo92 »

runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

"I've been using a 8700K/RX580 hackintosh for years now"

Have you ever had to upgrade/change something hardware-wise to keep up to date with the latest MacOS versions?

Question is, can I buy some "optimal" Hackintosh hardware and expect it to work for upcoming MacOS versions for years to come (at least 3 years)?

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by beagle3 »

mrweasel wrote: post #11
breakfastduck wrote: post #7

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Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Having moved from Ubuntu/Unity to Mac, it feels like in my day to day use, the Mac and Unity have similar levels of polish and consistency (neither is perfect) but somehow Unity is way more usable, both out of the box (small things like the number of open App windows indicator) and with minor tweaks (5% less brightness for unfocused windows).

I do use Firefox/Thunderbird on both, so perhaps I’m missing some special apple sauce.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by phone8675309 »

distances wrote: post #77
phone8675309 wrote: post #44

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> Finally, some might say; just buy a Mac Pro! Well, I cannot motivate $6000 Just because I want to game every now and then.. :) Depending on how much gaming computer you need for the games you want to play, it sounds like the better solution is to just build a gaming computer that runs Windows. That's my setup - a Linux desktop machine (small form factor, running on a machine from two generations ago, it's sufficien…

Why wouldn't you dual boot with the more powerful computer? Or alternatively just use Linux, with Proton the number of games available is already quite impressive.

Separate computers removes a single point of failure. If my gaming rig goes down it doesn't keep my work from progressing, and if my work computer goes down, I can swap out drives into the gaming rig to keep working.

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Post by unilock »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #140
sneak wrote: post #134

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I anticipate that ARM macOS will not run at all on systems without Apple Silicon (as they are calling it) and never will. I assume these systems will have the proprietary secure enclave on-die, which would be missing from all other ARM systems. Hopefully I am wrong.

I agree. No one has ever managed to get iOS on non-Apple hardware†, and I don't see why ARM macOS would be any different. † Except maybe Correllium, which was a large commercial effort. Since they don't make any details public, I'm not clear if Correllium just built a sort of emulator or if they actually have the OS running "natively" on 3rd party hardware.

The Darwin on ARM Project[1] attempted just that. It depends on what you mean by "iOS" if you want to say they accomplished it - for example, they got XNU, the kernel, running on a Nokia N900, but they never got a UI up and running (only single-user mode).

[1] https://github.com/darwin-on-arm

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

monadic2 wrote: post #163
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #131

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I respectfully disagree, learning what's happening with your machine is helpful for troubleshooting and for security. Further, I feel the parent comment was disrespectful for the actual creators.

How is a qualitative evaluation of software disrespectful to the authors?

Dissing the website which hosts original development in favour of others which are profiting out that is.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by kochthesecond »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #91

The bootloader development in Hackintosh scene never cease to amaze me. I remember the lead developer of Clover bootloader[1] Slice, still developing it on his old Dell with 32 bit Snowleopard when it was being used for Mountain Lion and later. But the interest in Hackintosh seems to be slowing down[2]? , it's not like Macs have become affordable, if anything Mac Pro is prohibitively expensive and hackintosh generall…

For my own personal reason: I lost interest due to countless problems, the hours of endless tinkering and simply that macOS is not that far ahead anymore. It has some nice things, but ubuntu is very stable now a days. Sleep works, wifi works, and even games are decent on a powerful linux box. Apple dropped the ball on macOS and the hardware remained very expensive.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by kochthesecond »

tinco wrote: post #198
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #91

The bootloader development in Hackintosh scene never cease to amaze me. I remember the lead developer of Clover bootloader[1] Slice, still developing it on his old Dell with 32 bit Snowleopard when it was being used for Mountain Lion and later. But the interest in Hackintosh seems to be slowing down[2]? , it's not like Macs have become affordable, if anything Mac Pro is prohibitively expensive and hackintosh generall…

I think the answer is simply that Ubuntu has become good enough. The whole point of running MacOS was to get POSIX compliance with a polished GUI. No Windows, pretty terminals smooth fonts good UX. Now MacOS has no edge over Ubuntu in any sense. Ubuntu runs Docker natively and Cuda. It has an insanely user friendly installer, it runs on a wide range of hardware with no issues and its default GUI is great.

Yeah, linux now actually works with wifi, sleep mode, decent fonts, native docker, a good package manager and a variety of games, all at the same time!

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Post by simonh »

dylan604 wrote: post #111
saagarjha wrote: post #81

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> Cmd-tab allows to switch to an app, but the Dashboard view lets me get to a specific window within an app directly from whatever view I'm currently in. 4 finger swipe up, and clickity click, I'm in the document I'm wanting That sounds like Mission Control.

You may be right. I don't really pay attention to BrandName(TM) of a simple feature. All I know is I never browse the /Applications folder to find an app. I also know that these features are NOT available on Windows. That with the missing spacebar press in Explorer for Quicklook access to a file in Windows makes not using macOS frustrating

The most annoying thing for me on MacOS is no 'New' menu on right-click to create a new file, only a folder. I'm just so used to doing that in Windows that it really annoys me in the Finder. There are ways to hack that in yourself though.

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Post by nileshk »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #124
trevor-e wrote: post #121

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Damn, this is a buzzkill for me. I just built a new computer a month ago and was hoping to get a Hackintosh setup working but didn't do much research into it beforehand. Why will Nvidia GPUs never work? Because they won't publish open source drivers to work off of?

Because Apple computers don't use nVidia cards, and nVidia no longer makes their own Mac drivers (as they did until recently). Porting the Linux driver would be a massive amount of effort, even if nVidia was more open. If you have a slightly older nVidia GPU (1000 series or older), it will work in High Sierra via nVidia's in-house drivers. But you will never be able to upgrade past High Sierra.

There is a hack that allowed me to use the Nvidia web drivers on Mojave on my 2012 15" rMBP. Not sure if it works on Catalina. You have to reapply it every OS update. I don't think there is a hack to get CUDA working, which was last supported on High Sierra.

Not sure if the same hack could be used on a Hackintosh (with an old enough card). But for now I would just use High Sierra if you have an Nvidia card, unless you really needed something in a later OS and the hack made it possible. I downgraded that 2012 to High Sierra, and keep other older machines on it as well (didn't have a choice with my 2019 16"). It runs very smoothly and currently has enough software support (e.g. latest Office 365 still supports it).

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

nileshk wrote: post #209
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #124

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Because Apple computers don't use nVidia cards, and nVidia no longer makes their own Mac drivers (as they did until recently). Porting the Linux driver would be a massive amount of effort, even if nVidia was more open. If you have a slightly older nVidia GPU (1000 series or older), it will work in High Sierra via nVidia's in-house drivers. But you will never be able to upgrade past High Sierra.

There is a hack that allowed me to use the Nvidia web drivers on Mojave on my 2012 15" rMBP. Not sure if it works on Catalina. You have to reapply it every OS update. I don't think there is a hack to get CUDA working, which was last supported on High Sierra. Not sure if the same hack could be used on a Hackintosh (with an old enough card). But for now I would just use High Sierra if you have an Nvidia card, unless yo…

Wait, what? Really? Can you link me?
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