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Justifications are meaningless. The US wants to curtail Chinese influence and power, so it finds some mumbo-jumbo to justify it.
Tomorrow this exact mumbo jumbo will be used against "California" companies and "New York" companies.
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Having to pay for storage seems to be a better outcome than total foreign intelligence penetration and public opinion influencing.
> public opinion influencing Has the USA not been doing that all over the world since forever? Hell, they usually just change governments directly, without even bothering with public opinion.
1) Not all influence is equal. USA owns Australia but I wouldn't trade that for China.
2) Just because USA has spies elsewhere doesn't mean they'd tolerate spies on their soil.
This is obviously just a tactic by the Trump administration to distract people from the US economy tanking because of the mishandling of covid-19. If you haven't noticed, the US has much bigger problems. How about covid-19, the economy, lack of universal healthcare, weak education system, huge deficits, etc? I am not blaming the mishandling of covid-19 solely on the Trump administration. I am just pointing out their…
Regardless of how I feel about this particular company or transaction, to me this is a bad overreach of presidential power. I guess it's merely a reflection of the incompetence/inaction of Congress to study the matter and do something about it, as is their responsibility. Why do I say so? 1. The justification for this is that it's a "national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and…
Justifications are meaningless. The US wants to curtail Chinese influence and power, so it finds some mumbo-jumbo to justify it.
I think it's definitely justified in the sense that it's understandable to strike back, but it's hard to take a moral high ground now.
OK This is huge. Trump isn't just banning TikTok he's banning Tencent and it's holdings too from operating in the US. To put this is perspective Tencent owns Riot Games (League of Legends) and has stakes in Epic Games (Fortnite), Ubisoft (Assassin's Creed) and Activision Blizzard (Call of Duty). Overall Tencent owns 108 companies across media, entertainment, fintech and education. This is going to be a mess. (univers…
It's only WeChat. Reddit, Riot, Epic etc are unimpacted
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That’s the behaviour of a dictatorship country. And now America is being like one. This is probably what China wants for America.
America primarily sells technology. China primarily sells goods. China is totally free to sell goods into America. China has blockaded America's technology, unless the companies agree to essentially hand over IP so China can steal it (Huawei operated a cash bonus scheme for stolen IP, according to the DoJ). Does this sound like "free trade"?
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What are your views on IP theft by some companies there. Should that be considered first strike by China.
The difference between west and CCP is that you follow rule of law, everyone is free until you're proven guilty. If you just replicate what CCP is doing you're admitting that their ideology is superior.
When you reciprocate it’s not because of a superior ideology but because you won’t accept a one-sided transaction
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Yes, by mirroring China’s authoritarianism and restricting the freedom of Americans. I’m living overseas and now my government is telling me I can’t use WeChat? Telling me who I can and cannot trade with, etc. Restrictions on trade with China are attacks on our freedom.
How do you feel about restrictions on trade with North Korea, Syria, or Iran?
It’s not an actual national security issue like selling China nukes or something.
Only took a couple decades to do this. A messaging app that allows China to read everything but not other countries should be illegal to begin with. Entirely secure or not at all is the way.
Isn't this exactly what US companies do, and what the US government wants to do?