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US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
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Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#32So does this ban transactions with all of Tencent or just those in relation to WeChat? https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or... Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction…
Did you edit in the quote from the EO after? It specifically says "any transaction that is related to WeChat". The TikTok/ByteDance order doesn't include a "related to" qualifier like that, the same section in it just says:
any transaction by any person, or with respect to any property, [...] with ByteDance Ltd.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#33Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#34An important note that nobody seems to be reporting on: this is only possible because Apple and Google have control over which apps are permitted on your device. The US government has no legal authority to ban publishing (including apps) in the US. They do, however, have the ability to regulate trade between the operators of the App Store (Apple) and the Play Store (Google), and app publishers, which is what they're…
And how would we prevent the Chinese from simply subverting our democracy?
Teach people to think for themselves and ignore the media and social media?
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#35Theres an incredible amount of foreign propaganda in western social media anyway. Twitter took down like a million CCP accounts the other month (they made an announcement about it) and thats just the ones they know about. This is a step thats at least in spirit probably makes sense but there are more larger issues. Reddit literally has an API to comment...you think all those policial default subs are real comments? N…
Every website effectively has an API to comment (or do any other action that's available through the site). You can just use HTTP requests.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#36The (US-HQ'd) company I work for has a small but significant office in China. We are not a household name, even within tech, so I doubt we'd be a target of any retaliation by China. However, my worry is this: Whilst we have a lot of really good people in China, we don't do any business in China (and there's no realistic prospect of us doing so). So at this point operating in China seems like a huge exposure to risk f…
How bad of a hit would your business continuity take? Not to get dramatic, but, is it worth risking the lives of your employees over? Personally I won't step foot within PRC borders given my staunch pro-Taiwan sovereignty stance. It's a vicious state that has in the past indicated it will go to any lengths to protect its stature.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#37Which workarounds you suggest around the Great Firewall of the United States of America?
Might be time to start a VPN service with exit points in China!
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone has to store the videos though.
Having to pay for storage seems to be a better outcome than total foreign intelligence penetration and public opinion influencing.
> public opinion influencing
Has the USA not been doing that all over the world since forever?
Hell, they usually just change governments directly, without even bothering with public opinion.
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#39Is there any precedent for a president to do such a thing? I am completely astonished and dumbstruck that everyone is ok with this.
Dumbstruck that we wouldn’t allow an adversarial country collect data on all of our citizens locations? And potentially more?
Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days
#40This is sad, we in the US are losing the little high ground we had and no longer lead by example to bring the world closer together by encouraging free markets and free people. I'm against this protectionist nationalism, it only leads to future conflict.