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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by ornxka »

Nursie wrote: post #16
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #4

I never understood the appeal of Hackintosh. Linux has a hard enough time getting touchpad, display, suspend/resume, etc working on regular PC laptops. Does any of that stuff have hope for working well on reasonably modern MacBooks? Maybe this is more for reviving a 10+ year old Apple computer with Ubuntu? I understand that it's kind of fun and interesting but I feel like you're just punishing yourself if your goal i…

> comically non-functional. I had an eeepc 901 years ago, with an atom chip, and I turned it into a hackintosh running snow leopard. It worked great! Way better than with the original software on it. Hackintoshes can be really good. Not all are, and you have to be careful about updates sometimes, but it can be very worthwhile. I would probably have it bootable as an option on my current Ryzen workstation, but I went…

I'm amazed by this. I started using an EeePC 901 a few months ago, and it barely runs Firefox. I don't know if that says more about the computer than it does about Firefox, but I had no idea such a thing was even possible.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#172

Post by rubyn00bie »

ssijak wrote: post #79
runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

Dont use Ryzen, virtualization does not work, including Docker and some other apps like Adobe ones are buggy. Other than that I agree. I made a hackintosh a month ago for half the price of what I would need to pay Apple and it is rock solid. Everything works including all wireless features like sidecar, airdrop, etc. Sleep, thunderbold, rx5700xt, everything is working well.

I'd sort of do it the sort of reverse way... Run KVM with pass-through to a VM MacOS instance and then run all your docker shit on the Linux host. Best of both worlds right there:

1. You get MacOS with GPU acceleration (which is like the primary feature for making it usable).

2. You get a legit environment to run docker containers... That doesn't have to boot a VM and rob you of all your ram. If you haven't ever used containers on a metal Linux environment, you're missing out... it's much better experience than doing it on a Mac (as far as development goes).

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#173

Post by Wowfunhappy »

Nursie wrote: post #170
monadic2 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would nvidia stop drivers when throwing an nvidia card into an egpu is a quick way of turning your mac into a small ai workstation? Edit: honestly I have no clue why I am downvoted: I really would appreciate an answer here.

I don't know why you're being downvoted either. AFAICT the answer is that Nvidia and Apple are not the best of friends, and Apple decided that they would not sign any newer drivers. This may have been at least partly because it restricts the numbers of people who try making hackintoshes out of existing machines. I think this is probably a factor in the lack of support for intel Wifi too - it keeps a lot of laptops fr…

> Apple decided that they would not sign any newer drivers.

People think this based on a vague statement from nVidia's PR. It doesn't make any sense to me. nVidia has continued to release (minor) updates for the High Sierra drivers, and Apple has been perfectly happy to sign those. Also, this is a technically-advanced audience that would probably have no trouble installing unsigned drivers.

I really think that nVidia realized they would have had to do a major driver rewrite for Mojave (because much more rendering goes through Metal) and decided it wasn't worth the effort. The Mac drivers were clearly a very low priority for nVidia; it took the better part of a year before the company added compatibility with their new Pascal graphics cards, and even then the drivers had all sorts of bugs with applications like Little Snitch[1]. It's even possible that nVidia had some knowledge of the upcoming ARM transition, and decided to cut their losses ahead of time.

1: https://www.obdev.at/support/littlesnitch/483957225401957

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Nursie »

ornxka wrote: post #171
Nursie wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> comically non-functional. I had an eeepc 901 years ago, with an atom chip, and I turned it into a hackintosh running snow leopard. It worked great! Way better than with the original software on it. Hackintoshes can be really good. Not all are, and you have to be careful about updates sometimes, but it can be very worthwhile. I would probably have it bootable as an option on my current Ryzen workstation, but I went…

I'm amazed by this. I started using an EeePC 901 a few months ago, and it barely runs Firefox. I don't know if that says more about the computer than it does about Firefox, but I had no idea such a thing was even possible.

It's quite some time ago now! I don't think I even have mine any more...

I guess Snow-Leopard was pretty lightweight compared to what we have now. IIRC I also modded the machine a bit with a 64GB aftermarket storage card. Maybe doubled the RAM too.

Eventually I think the aftermarket storage card died, and I went back to debian/XFCE, then to debian/LXDE, in an effort to try to keep it both current and usable, with chromium for a browser as FF was too heavy.

Pleased to hear someone has one still up and running :)

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by skrowl »

atum47 wrote: post #174

is a hackingtosh the cheapest way of developing apps for iOS? should I anticipate any problems in case I go that way? I'm working on some games and apps but only publishing it for Android, cause I don't own a mac.

I build iOS apps using Visual Studio 2019 + Xamarin on Windows, then running macOS in a VMWare VM that basically just functions as a build server (Windows communicates with it via SSH). You can find lots of YouTube videos describing how to do it.

It's technically against the macOS terms of service, but the macOS terms of service are likely illegal anyways (monopoly bundling of hardware + software, etc).

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#177

Post by Nursie »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #173
Nursie wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why you're being downvoted either. AFAICT the answer is that Nvidia and Apple are not the best of friends, and Apple decided that they would not sign any newer drivers. This may have been at least partly because it restricts the numbers of people who try making hackintoshes out of existing machines. I think this is probably a factor in the lack of support for intel Wifi too - it keeps a lot of laptops fr…

> Apple decided that they would not sign any newer drivers. People think this based on a vague statement from nVidia's PR. It doesn't make any sense to me. nVidia has continued to release (minor) updates for the High Sierra drivers, and Apple has been perfectly happy to sign those. Also, this is a technically-advanced audience that would probably have no trouble installing unsigned drivers. I really think that nVidia…

I was under the impression that Apple has moved away from allowing unsigned drivers to be loaded?

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#178

Post by satvikpendem »

ssijak wrote: post #79
runjake wrote: post #74

Hackintoshes are very stable if: - You buy the right hardware. Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Choose Ryzen if you like those and like tinkering and hacking on your OS a lot. And no, it's very unlikely your Nvidia GPU will ever work with a recent macOS. - You use the vanilla method of macOS install. The dortania guides along with /r/hackintosh are all you need. Avoid tonymacx86, insanelymac, and any software with the word "be…

Dont use Ryzen, virtualization does not work, including Docker and some other apps like Adobe ones are buggy. Other than that I agree. I made a hackintosh a month ago for half the price of what I would need to pay Apple and it is rock solid. Everything works including all wireless features like sidecar, airdrop, etc. Sleep, thunderbold, rx5700xt, everything is working well.

You'd run QEMU KVM instead and use GPU passthrough for a macOS VM. Proxmox is great for this, here's a guide: https://www.nicksherlock.com/2020/04/installing-macos-catali...

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#179

Post by satvikpendem »

spott wrote: post #168
Teknoman117 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Ryzen in my "Hackintosh". However, these days I've been using GPU-passthrough and running macOS in a VM on top of Linux.

This is what I'm planning on doing. Have you had any issues? The thing I'm most concerned about is hooking my apple id up to it for icloud. Any recommendations?

Proxmox is great for this, here's a guide: https://www.nicksherlock.com/2020/04/installing-macos-catali...

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#180

Post by Wowfunhappy »

Nursie wrote: post #177
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple decided that they would not sign any newer drivers. People think this based on a vague statement from nVidia's PR. It doesn't make any sense to me. nVidia has continued to release (minor) updates for the High Sierra drivers, and Apple has been perfectly happy to sign those. Also, this is a technically-advanced audience that would probably have no trouble installing unsigned drivers. I really think that nVidia…

I was under the impression that Apple has moved away from allowing unsigned drivers to be loaded?

Depends on your definition of "allow". By default they're blocked, yes, but you can change that by booting into recovery mode, opening a Terminal window, and typing:

    csrutil disable && csrutil enable --without kext
Now unsigned kexts will be allowed to load (while leaving the rest of System Integrity Protection intact).

For most software this requirement would be a massive problem, but I'm not sure that applies to the type of person installing 3rd party graphics cards in Macs...

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