American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

Post by TeaDrunk » Thu, Aug 06, 2020, 12:54 PM UTC

KMag wrote: post #82

akiselev wrote: post #78

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> I'm all for ending slavery, but declaring plantation owners enemies simply for disagreeing with you is stifling the conversation. Thanks to the 13th Amendment, this is not an exaggeration. Thanks to the war on drugs, hundreds of thousands are slaves that wouldn't be otherwise. Manufacturing your license plates, freezing your Big Macs, and picking up your litter by the side of the highway. At some point, history has…

It's only by the political campaigning of abolitionists that there was enough support for the Civil War in the North. There were plenty of non-slave owners who needed to be convinced of the evils of slavery. Dr. King was so much more effective than Malcolm X because he didn't declare those yet-to-be-convinced to be his enemies. Once you declare everyone who doesn't agree with you an enemy, they stop listening to you,…

Post by Fjolsvith » Thu, Aug 06, 2020, 1:39 PM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #92

remarkEon wrote: post #74

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You (and others in this thread) are helping to make my point for me, which is that personal social structures are paramount for killing drug addiction.

I don’t think anyone is disputing that some variation of this idea is true. What’s not being stated explicitly is that if it’s true that social connectedness (ambiguously including identity, purpose, etc.) matters, then it’s also true that our current enforcement mechanisms are probably incredibly counterproductive. Everyone gets the point you’re making, you’re just not following it through to something meaningful an…

Post by nkrisc » Thu, Aug 06, 2020, 1:57 PM UTC

fiblye wrote: post #42

fermienrico wrote: post #40

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Parent comment plays into the current narrative of Anti-American sentiments and bolstering their internal prejudices with twisted reasoning and siding with massive drug smuggling operations. What’s worrying about anti-American sentiments is that people are willing to advocate for the worst of atrocities just to satiate their emotional state exasperated by media. I saw similar opinions in countless other threads. Amer…

Not sure what internal prejudices or twisted reasoning I have about my own country. I certainly don't know what it has to do with Trump. My concern is that countries will ship people to a country they've never been to for things like drug crimes. The standard for what's wrong is going to change in coming decades, and countries that thought it's normal to extradite people for things like drugs are going to find themse…

Post by maerF0x0 » Thu, Aug 06, 2020, 3:40 PM UTC

svara wrote: post #77

aunty_helen wrote: post #60

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The problem here (by design) is jurisdiction, the US DOJ doesn't stretch as far as the bitcoin network. As an example, why would someone in Russia stop processing coins because the US DOJ said so? Virtual currencies aren't the battleground for the US's war on drugs.

... because any wallet downstream of the tainted wallet in the transaction graph could be considered tainted as well. This would be a highly effective attack on Bitcoin as an illegal payment method - the onus would be on every Bitcoin user to ensure that they have provably done everything they could to avoid obtaining "illegal bitcoins". Therefore, the person in Russia in your example would have an interest in not de…

Post by Dirlewanger » Thu, Aug 06, 2020, 4:21 PM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #6

A victimless crime - unless you think we should be locking up all of the alcohol sellers? Alcohol addiction is a sad, sad affair. I would rather someone be addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids than street heroin laced with fentanyl and other junk.