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This is not a mixer table or even a computer, it's a phone.

Sure thing buddy

Great comeback. Pretty funny that you seriously think "professional musicians" don't use BT headsets when listening to music on their phones.

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That kind of proves the point though even at 24 a month if you have the phone for 2 years then the plan was $576 while the phone was only 350. The phone would come out to $14 a month. Do you value your phone as worth less to you than Netflix?

the 350 isn't factoring in the costs of calls/data etc. it depends on how long you want to keep the phone for. I bought my phone in 2017 ago for £400 and I pay £8 a month to a carrier to get an allowance of data + calls every month (not a contract, I'm free to cancel any time) so it's worked out at about £18 a month if you amortise the initial outlay. obviously contracts are more expensive, and can sometimes, albeit…

I mean sure it's not factoring in cost of calls data but that's not specific to a phone so if you're comparing phone prices (and not plan prices) then the data and calls are irrelevant to the conversation

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It might lose some life from keeping the battery at a high level, but it will gain life from using the battery less. If you can keep it from charging too high, it's all upside.

The last 10-20% of the charging causes most battery wear (many times more than in the mid band). So charging from almost-full to full many times per day is going to be harder on the battery than charging fewer times per day. This is especially pronounced on phones, where batteries are already calibrated to have a high charge cutoff (ie battery longevity vs capacity compromise is heavily at the capacity end).

What I don't get is why phones can't be configured to just never charge past 80% or so, for people who rarely need that 100%, and would rather the battery wear less.

It's a thing for some laptops; e.g. Lenovo specifically advertises such a setting.

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A bit sad and amusing that a physical jack is actually considered a feature now... what's next, removable battery? Expandable storage?

My personal opinion: Of course it is a feature! I can use cheap generic headphones (Blackberry headset user here) and charge at the same time. I can use the same headphones with my computer. I can also switch between phone and computer in about a second, no pairing no BS and it works reliably all the time. I care less about the removable battery - in every phone I had I was able to change it myself, tools are cheap,…

The point made by GP is that it's sad how phone makers remove things that were expected stock characteristics from all phones, and are now threatened with extinction. Almost all android phones used to have a microSD slot to add storage, and for most of them, you could also open up the phone and just slide in a new battery. Now this requires specialty tools and great care, or paying someone to do it for you...

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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The last 10-20% of the charging causes most battery wear (many times more than in the mid band). So charging from almost-full to full many times per day is going to be harder on the battery than charging fewer times per day. This is especially pronounced on phones, where batteries are already calibrated to have a high charge cutoff (ie battery longevity vs capacity compromise is heavily at the capacity end).

What I don't get is why phones can't be configured to just never charge past 80% or so, for people who rarely need that 100%, and would rather the battery wear less. It's a thing for some laptops; e.g. Lenovo specifically advertises such a setting.

Apparently you can do it on rooted Android, though I haven't tried it (eg https://www.androidexplained.com/battery-charge-limit/)

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> the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery Anecdote: I still have a 2XL and it can get me through 24 hours. It's gotten a _little_ worse recently which I attribute to hardware age. The camera is fantastic, so I have no need to upgrade (although having stereo speakers would be nice.)

The Pixel 2XL does have stereo front facing speakers...

Oh, not mine. Hardware issue then. Only the "bottom" speaker works.

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> If I remember correctly, AUS has a 10% VAT. So that is $539. Yup, we've got a goods and services tax (GST) that's 10%, and it's illegal, IIRC, to advertise an item to end consumers that doesn't include it. So the AUD $599 value would include the GST - but you'd need to divide by 11, not 10, to find the GST component. Not much difference to your estimation of A$539 - the tax-free cost would be closer to A$545. I ver…

> I very much appreciate the benefits of our CP laws, but unless the devices are manufactured to a different standard than those sold in other parts of the world, that cost / value isn't wrapped up into the sale price. Maybe it is, through higher replacement rate due to longer warranty period?

Could well be. I've had Nexus, Pixel, then Pixel XL - since soon after the first Nexus.

I have replaced (due to hardware failures) Nexus and Pixel, under Google's warranty, which was 2 years. I don't know if they offer 2y hardware warranty everywhere, or only in AU because they're obligated to.

Either way - back to TFA, that 4A model is looking like the perfect upgrade for the original Pixel XL - slightly smaller handset, slightly larger display, 3.5mm audio jack, improved performance, more onboard RAM & storage, and lacking a hideous list price.

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My personal opinion: Of course it is a feature! I can use cheap generic headphones (Blackberry headset user here) and charge at the same time. I can use the same headphones with my computer. I can also switch between phone and computer in about a second, no pairing no BS and it works reliably all the time. I care less about the removable battery - in every phone I had I was able to change it myself, tools are cheap,…

The point made by GP is that it's sad how phone makers remove things that were expected stock characteristics from all phones, and are now threatened with extinction. Almost all android phones used to have a microSD slot to add storage, and for most of them, you could also open up the phone and just slide in a new battery. Now this requires specialty tools and great care, or paying someone to do it for you...

Oh, I see. Thanks for pointing it out.

It's funny how the brain can interpret the text based on your mood and bias. Feels kinda like those optical illusions that seem to rotate in one direction, until you change your perception somehow, and then it rotates the other direction.

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I have this issue as well. What do you mean "lock the lockscreen"

Apply a pattern or code-based lock to make it difficult to activate the phone. It's a security setting.

I have a x digit code. I need a lock screen for my lock screen - to stop me from hitting play on spotify, audible, libby, pocketcast, etc.

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Pixel 4 already supports dual SIM (DSDS--dual SIM dual standby) that allows you to receive calls at either number, but only one at a time.

So inbound SMS works, and you can preference the nano SIM for out calls? just like the normal interface behaviours on non-google dual-physical-sim phones?

Correct.
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