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OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by mrweasel »

breakfastduck wrote: post #7
blackhaz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother with Mac? I've just built a Xeon E5-2640 using a Chinese X79 motherboard. NMVe, proper Radeon RX580 GPU - in an open build test bench frame. All in all, something like $250 on eBay for everything. Runs the games I like well and looks great on the table, especially with two big red LED fans in front. :-)

Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience.

I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive.

As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the hassle and macOS just works.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by trollied »

reimertz wrote: post #2

I bought an EGPU 1.5 years ago with the idea of replacing my gaming computer with my MacBook Pro running Windows. But due to the limitations of Thunderbolt 3 and the throughput from my enclosure, I cannot get consistent frame rates which is critical for playing fast-paced competitive games like Apex legends. It really sucks and this point, my $1000 EGPU is currently acting as a fancy adapter + charger + enabling smoo…

I had the same setup, and have just purchased a nice Ryzen 3800X PC to replace it.

I've had enough of macos & its crappy software quality.

Windows 10 has been fine so far (though the control panel is a complete mess, they really need to start from scratch!).

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#13

Post by reimertz »

blackhaz wrote: post #3
reimertz wrote: post #2

I bought an EGPU 1.5 years ago with the idea of replacing my gaming computer with my MacBook Pro running Windows. But due to the limitations of Thunderbolt 3 and the throughput from my enclosure, I cannot get consistent frame rates which is critical for playing fast-paced competitive games like Apex legends. It really sucks and this point, my $1000 EGPU is currently acting as a fancy adapter + charger + enabling smoo…

Why bother with Mac? I've just built a Xeon E5-2640 using a Chinese X79 motherboard. NMVe, proper Radeon RX580 GPU - in an open build test bench frame. All in all, something like $250 on eBay for everything. Runs the games I like well and looks great on the table, especially with two big red LED fans in front. :-)

This is a very fair question.

For me, the reason for a hackintosh is just that I am tired of all the cables and having to swap between the two setups (like having one monitor for working, and one for gaming) while utilizing the performance when working.

I also want to utilize my iCloud Drive symlinking hacks to sync files / dotfiles between systems.

My gaming rig is currently running i4790k with a fairly decent motherboard (Asus Maximus VII) that I bought used for $200 a two years ago. It still performs like butter as long as you have a decent gpu connected to it. I seriously recommend this setup if you want to save some dough (or maybe the new Ryzen CPUs are better now tbh).

A sidenote regarding monitors: These are some exciting times to be working from home combined with having an interest for gaming due to the new monitors coming out, working for both.

I am currently thinking about the LG 38WN95C-W. Really expensive, but if you use it 8 hours a day for 5 years, I think I calculated it to be like 50 cent a day. :)

edit: Oh, and yes, as someone below mentioned, I love macOS and a lot of the things I work on require me to work on it.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#14

Post by rado »

mrweasel wrote: post #11
breakfastduck wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Apparently consistency isn't a part of the majority's vocabulary and they can ignore 5 different styles of typography and dialogs, among many other issues. It's a disaster and officially not a priority for MS. Nothing comes close to macOS indeed.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by print_goto_ten »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #4

I never understood the appeal of Hackintosh. Linux has a hard enough time getting touchpad, display, suspend/resume, etc working on regular PC laptops. Does any of that stuff have hope for working well on reasonably modern MacBooks? Maybe this is more for reviving a 10+ year old Apple computer with Ubuntu? I understand that it's kind of fun and interesting but I feel like you're just punishing yourself if your goal i…

seems like you don’t understand what a hackintosh is which might be why you don’t get it. it’s not other os on apple hardware as you put it, it’s osx on generic hardware

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

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Post by Nursie »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #4

I never understood the appeal of Hackintosh. Linux has a hard enough time getting touchpad, display, suspend/resume, etc working on regular PC laptops. Does any of that stuff have hope for working well on reasonably modern MacBooks? Maybe this is more for reviving a 10+ year old Apple computer with Ubuntu? I understand that it's kind of fun and interesting but I feel like you're just punishing yourself if your goal i…

> comically non-functional.

I had an eeepc 901 years ago, with an atom chip, and I turned it into a hackintosh running snow leopard. It worked great! Way better than with the original software on it.

Hackintoshes can be really good. Not all are, and you have to be careful about updates sometimes, but it can be very worthwhile. I would probably have it bootable as an option on my current Ryzen workstation, but I went with an nvidia graphics card so it's a no-go. Good thing I also love debian.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#17

Post by simonh »

mrweasel wrote: post #11
breakfastduck wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just greatly prefer using macOS over windows or linux and don't want their entire computer experience to be windows just because they play games now and then.

macOS isn't exactly perfect, but I don't know any other desktop operating system that comes even close to macOS in terms of polish and user experience. I understand that Microsoft can't just redesign Windows over night, but I also fail to understand why Windows isn't better. Better as in more consistent and more responsive. As much as I like to consider other operating systems, the reality is that I don't want the ha…

Windows went down a six year long dead end with 8.x trying to be both a desktop and a phone/tablet OS at the same time, while also doing it twice as fast as was actually feasible and without taking the time to think it through, in an attempt to catch up with iOS.

Windows 10 actually doesn't seem too bad, except for the vestigial Metro crap. Power Shell looks interesting. They seem to have worked out what to do with .NET at last. WSL2 seems decent too so they finally seem to be back on a productive track.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#18

Post by quantummkv »

reimertz wrote: post #2

I bought an EGPU 1.5 years ago with the idea of replacing my gaming computer with my MacBook Pro running Windows. But due to the limitations of Thunderbolt 3 and the throughput from my enclosure, I cannot get consistent frame rates which is critical for playing fast-paced competitive games like Apex legends. It really sucks and this point, my $1000 EGPU is currently acting as a fancy adapter + charger + enabling smoo…

Which is why I am finally going to make a switch to PS5 as my first dedicated game console after 2 decades of Gaming PC's. 500$ for a high performance box that will game for atleast 5 years that I can connect to my existing 4k monitors or my 4k tv is an insane deal.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#19

Post by jfkebwjsbx »

reimertz wrote: post #13
blackhaz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother with Mac? I've just built a Xeon E5-2640 using a Chinese X79 motherboard. NMVe, proper Radeon RX580 GPU - in an open build test bench frame. All in all, something like $250 on eBay for everything. Runs the games I like well and looks great on the table, especially with two big red LED fans in front. :-)

This is a very fair question. For me, the reason for a hackintosh is just that I am tired of all the cables and having to swap between the two setups (like having one monitor for working, and one for gaming) while utilizing the performance when working. I also want to utilize my iCloud Drive symlinking hacks to sync files / dotfiles between systems. My gaming rig is currently running i4790k with a fairly decent mothe…

You can share a monitor between two computers.

What do you on macOS that isn't available on Windows? Really curious.

Re: OpenCore bootloader – open-sourced Apple UEFI drivers, enabling Hackintosh

#20

Post by jki275 »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #4

I never understood the appeal of Hackintosh. Linux has a hard enough time getting touchpad, display, suspend/resume, etc working on regular PC laptops. Does any of that stuff have hope for working well on reasonably modern MacBooks? Maybe this is more for reviving a 10+ year old Apple computer with Ubuntu? I understand that it's kind of fun and interesting but I feel like you're just punishing yourself if your goal i…

The Dell Mini 9 was essentially the same hardware as one of the MacBooks at the time, so it was trivial to get it to boot OSX 10.6 as I recall.

The Mini 10, otoh, was totally different and a royal pain to get working.

It was actually a pretty decent netbook running OS X once we got it running.

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