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Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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For a moment, I read the word "reels" in the headline as a verb (meaning: "lose one's balance and stagger"), instead of a noun (film reel). But my mind quickly readjusted: "that doesn't make sense, because FB owns Instagram."

I know how it's supposed to be read (and I've even seen real reels at old movie theaters!), but I still just think about fishing reels every time I see it.

> but I still just think about fishing reels every time I see it.

The goal is to hook you after all...

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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As an American who looks at WeChat and sees a massive, unintuitive jumbled mess, you've explained in this comment how that could possibly be so popular in China! I feel foolish for not having realized that the UX must make perfect sense to everyone who has used WeChat since the days of it being a simple communication app. By that logic, I'm not sure we could say quite yet that Instagram's bundling is a mistake.

Actually those features WeChat wants people to use as new users are pretty intuitive and straightforward. For other functionalities, those are intentionally 'hidden'. Those advanced or experiment features are for those who look for those features or just spreading by friends. On the contrary, the other big player in China is Alipay, it's pretty much trying to put everything on the first page like Kowloon Walled City…

Scary. I'm going to pay with cash again out of principle (which I stopped doing due to the pandemic).

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I think the trouble is that it's really hard to start a new social network from scratch, so when Facebook wants to compete in a new segment they just tack on the feature to one of their existing social products. However, as you pointed out this leads to feature creep and pushes users to simpler platforms. What I would do to solve this problem if I were at Facebook is to start new features out on an established platfo…

This is the strategy Facebook did with Messenger. Absolutely everyone complained when they tried to spin it out.

It was annoying but nowadays it helps you never see or use the main Facebook app.

So in a way their arrogance may have hurt them in the long run.

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If Microsoft acquires TikTok how would they go about vetting all of the code to remove any potentially malicious components?

They're not. "Malicious" in this case means gathering user data and MS wants that data. They're just going to point the information flow to their servers.

My take on this is that a Chinese company can't take a National Security Letter, and Microsoft already has a Room 641A.

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Vine had over 200 million active users and Twitter didn't see any potential?! TikTok has over 800 monthly active users in 3 years. I don't know what Twitter was thinking but Vine had a lot of potential. TikTok wouldn't be so big if Vine was kept alive and managed well.

Twitter was thinking: “a free video sharing app is crazy expensive.. we’re burning all our capital on an app that will be near impossible to profit from.” TikTok is as far as I can tell not profitable either, and they’ve been burning hundreds of millions on ads as well. I’m guessing the CCP will gladly spend a few billions to have a social media platform that’s used all over the world.

Is the CCP funding ByteDance? Anyway a quick google suggests they made a tidy 3 billion profit (ByteDance as a whole) https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/27/tiktok-bytedance-profit.html

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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How to appeal to Gen Z; name the thing after a form of video playback that was totally obsolete before any of them were born.

Can't tell if the OP is being sarcastic. Just want to point out that "Tik Tok" is the sound an analog clock makes - which is also obsolete technology - except for the odd grandfather clock.

People are still more likely to come across a ticking clock than a film reel.

Most places I go to will still have an analog clock in multiple rooms.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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It seems like Instagram is Facebook's anti-competitive tool. Whenever some new social network crops up, Facebook bolts on a clone to Instagram. Eventually it's going to be such a bloated mess it's going to cease being useful to anyone.

Is going to be?

Instagram already lost me a while ago. It started to hamfist Snapchat stories in there. I also believe they tried to force in Facebook Messenger features at some point.

It also totally ruined any proper disoverability. You like one Comic Book post and suddenly you only get stupid text only posts about superhero facts. With no way to manually configure your interests.

And to make things worse, my personal feed got messed up because they thought it was best to no longer show the feed chronologically. Because hiding new posts lower in the feed, and keep showing me week-old posts on top was obviously a good idea.

All I want is sharing pictures I took with my friends, while also looking at photography from random people.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Instagram is what it always was for Facebook: a clear sign of the decline of Facebook’s original product into irrelevance while it slowly mutates into infinite town square forums trapped in valley of echoing stupidity and a less anonymous craigslist/gumtree. The Instagram acquisition was the first clear sign Facebook never could innovate it could only steal and perfect existing ideas. Now they decided that outright c…

Facebook came out with the Oculus Quest last year which is hugely innovative.

Apart from Quest being a standalone device, it was just an iteration on the original Rift. And it was another company they bought, and I'd be more inclined to give credits to the Occulus team than to Facebook.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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For a moment, I read the word "reels" in the headline as a verb (meaning: "lose one's balance and stagger"), instead of a noun (film reel). But my mind quickly readjusted: "that doesn't make sense, because FB owns Instagram."

Instagram "Reel our users back in from Tik-Tok" didn't really roll from the tongue, I assume.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter was thinking: “a free video sharing app is crazy expensive.. we’re burning all our capital on an app that will be near impossible to profit from.” TikTok is as far as I can tell not profitable either, and they’ve been burning hundreds of millions on ads as well. I’m guessing the CCP will gladly spend a few billions to have a social media platform that’s used all over the world.

Is the CCP funding ByteDance? Anyway a quick google suggests they made a tidy 3 billion profit (ByteDance as a whole) https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/27/tiktok-bytedance-profit.html

Key point is ByteDance as a whole (I haven’t been able to find anything to indicate that TikTok itself is profitable), which happens to be a privately held company. ByteDance’s CEO have also gone on record saying they had a “weak” implementation of Xi Jinping Thought, and promised that ByteDance would “further deepen cooperation” with the Chinese Communist Party to better promote its policies.
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