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Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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It'll be interesting to see if the DOJ manages to confiscate the crypto this time around, and if so how.

I'm fairly naive about the details of BTC, but couldnt the network decide to either 1) quarantine those blocks/addresses or 2) Agree to a signature that assigns the value to another wallet?

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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Your comment reminds me of an episode of Joe Rogan with Johann Hari [1], talking about what really causes addiction and the failures of the "war on drugs." He states, "The opposite of addiction is not sobriety, the opposite of addiction is connection." (18:08) The former U.S. surgeon general, Vivek Murthy, declared loneliness an epidemic, and just wrote a book on it [2]. I believe the biggest challenge we face in the…

> Johann Hari A man whose professional experience is journalist and has no science, medical, public health, or psychotherapy background... and he’s trying to sell a book. Is this too harsh a take? Is there a reason I should be taking his opinion seriously?

Thank you for bringing that up. I often forget to validate sources prior to looking at their viewpoint.

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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A victimless crime - unless you think we should be locking up all of the alcohol sellers? Alcohol addiction is a sad, sad affair. I would rather someone be addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids than street heroin laced with fentanyl and other junk.

> I would rather someone be addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids than street heroin laced with fentanyl and other junk. The two addictions are more or less the same. Someone addicted to street heroin can substitute pharmaceutical grade opioids. Someone addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids can substitute street heroin. This is largely a class discrepancy, as the higher tolerance a person has the more expensive…

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Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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Opioids are among the best medications for treating severe pain. If we're focusing on patients I'd much rather focus on rehabilitative strategies since the current degree of increased scrutiny is already making accessing adequate medication more difficult for groups like the elderly or people with chronic pain. Even more increased oversight is just going to escalate hesitation among doctors.

Do you feel like chronic pain patients outside the US don't get adequate treatment? Because where I live opioids are prescribed much less frequently, but I don't think chronic pain patients suffer more than in the US.

I would need a more detailed hypothetical and even then a lot of the devil is in the specifics. By definition their suffering, if not being treated with /something/, is going to be higher. Culture also plays a role, for example Europeans on average dislike pills for some reason and so may simply be more accepting of comparatively light treatments than Americans who are generally much more open to pharmaceudicals.

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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Justice is such a poor way to describe what is happening here. I have full empathy with those who have struggled with opioid addiction or lost loved ones to the disease. But the fact is that opioid prescriptions are still being written with too little oversight, too few safeguards, and not enough support for patients. Withstanding such contradiction in treatment of opioid suppliers, the federal government cannot keep…

This is your regular reminder that Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2001 and usage did not go up but the health effects and negative societal effects of drug use all but vanished [1]. They went from worst in the EU to among the best in the EU in the decade that followed on pretty much every metric.

Addiction has a huge situational component. 20% of US GIs in Vietnam were addicted to heroin. When they returned home 90% of them stopped using heroin overnight, indefinitely [2].

We're doing this all wrong.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radic...

[2] https://jamesclear.com/heroin-habits

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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A victimless crime - unless you think we should be locking up all of the alcohol sellers? Alcohol addiction is a sad, sad affair. I would rather someone be addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids than street heroin laced with fentanyl and other junk.

> I would rather someone be addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids than street heroin laced with fentanyl and other junk. The two addictions are more or less the same. Someone addicted to street heroin can substitute pharmaceutical grade opioids. Someone addicted to pharmaceutical grade opioids can substitute street heroin. This is largely a class discrepancy, as the higher tolerance a person has the more expensive…

It's inconsistency of dose that kills opioid addicts, that's one of many reasons why legalization is preferable.

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It's 2020 and if you are still against legalization, or at least decriminalization, you are the enemy.

It's no longer incumbent on anyone else to explain to you why the drug war is immoral, prejudiced, and stupid. Violence is exploding all over the country and homicide clearance rates are at an all time low. The irony of what these fat, beer-swilling thugs at the "Department of Justice" and DEA are doing will not be lost on history.

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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> Johann Hari A man whose professional experience is journalist and has no science, medical, public health, or psychotherapy background... and he’s trying to sell a book. Is this too harsh a take? Is there a reason I should be taking his opinion seriously?

I mean, you don't have to take his opinion seriously, or more importantly, as a final answer to the issue of addiction. I personally don't think that just because he's a journalist without those backgrounds, that he's not capable of learning and presenting truth in those spaces—I see a lot of value in journalistic skills of investigation and interdisciplinary exploration. That being said, it doesn't necessarily mean…

I don't know anything about him, but based on his wikipedia article, I wouldn't put any stock at all in his journalistic skills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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Justice is such a poor way to describe what is happening here. I have full empathy with those who have struggled with opioid addiction or lost loved ones to the disease. But the fact is that opioid prescriptions are still being written with too little oversight, too few safeguards, and not enough support for patients. Withstanding such contradiction in treatment of opioid suppliers, the federal government cannot keep…

This is your regular reminder that Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2001 and usage did not go up but the health effects and negative societal effects of drug use all but vanished [1]. They went from worst in the EU to among the best in the EU in the decade that followed on pretty much every metric. Addiction has a huge situational component. 20% of US GIs in Vietnam were addicted to heroin. When they returned hom…

This is your regular reminder that extrapolating an outcome from a country like Portugal (an outcome we should all be happy about, by the way) to a country like the United States is unwise. I've never been to Portugal, but have friends that live in both Spain and Portugal and I'm pretty envious of the kind of community and shared identity they describe. I image that probably has something to do with the outcome seen there. So, while I think it's possible to decriminalize all drug use in certain contexts, we've tried this experiment in some US cities and it's not resulted in anything anyone could describe as a success.

>Addiction has a huge situational component.

Yes, this is exactly what I'm getting at.

>20% of US GIs in Vietnam were addicted to heroin. When they returned home 90% of them stopped using heroin overnight, indefinitely [2].

This seems to contradict your previous point, no? In Vietnam there was of course zero enforcement, outside of the military (I'm being charitable here for reasons that should be obvious), and they returned home to a country where the drug was illegal.

Edit: very interesting, the negative reaction to this comment. What I said is true, so I can only assume that people who are reacting negatively are doing so because they are projecting a view on me that I do not hold.

Re: American darknet vendor and Costa Rican pharmacist charged

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It'll be interesting to see if the DOJ manages to confiscate the crypto this time around, and if so how.

I'm fairly naive about the details of BTC, but couldnt the network decide to either 1) quarantine those blocks/addresses or 2) Agree to a signature that assigns the value to another wallet?

The problem here (by design) is jurisdiction, the US DOJ doesn't stretch as far as the bitcoin network.

As an example, why would someone in Russia stop processing coins because the US DOJ said so?

Virtual currencies aren't the battleground for the US's war on drugs.

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