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Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Instagram is what it always was for Facebook: a clear sign of the decline of Facebook’s original product into irrelevance while it slowly mutates into infinite town square forums trapped in valley of echoing stupidity and a less anonymous craigslist/gumtree. The Instagram acquisition was the first clear sign Facebook never could innovate it could only steal and perfect existing ideas. Now they decided that outright copying is cheaper than buying, so they copy Snapchat and now TikTok.

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Reels isn’t going to compete with TikTok in any real way for a few simple reasons. First and foremost, as a non-Instagram user, I flat-out can’t use it. A while back, when I was curious about TikTok, I downloaded it and was instantly swiping through a video feed that was already getting customized for me. I downloaded Instagram this morning and was presented with a wall to create an account. Nope. Second, TikTok is n…

> Young people want to use the newest social app that old people haven’t yet infiltrated. There are actually plenty of people over 30 on TikTok FWIW. I definitely agree that TikTok's no-login-wall NUX was wonderful. You can even watch on a laptop without logging in.

How long will that fly though? Won’t TikTok run into the issue of ensuring that kids must not see adult content?

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Well yes, but it has limited growth potential. Latest generations are not interested joining it. So in 10 years it will be a dying platform. Kodak didn't die when invented digital cameras, but it was a downhill ride towards inevitable cliff.

“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.”

Welcome to era of neo capitalism

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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TikTok however is the opposite of WeChat where the interface is dead simple and intuitive. What is Reels immitating here?

Facebook is in the slow process of finally dying. Their ownership of Instagram is sustaining them for the time being, but they are now desperate to steal some market share away from Reddit, TikTok, and WeChat. Facebook is far more desperate than they're letting on publicly. They have already been on the decline for multiple years; the competition is now finally speeding that process up dramatically. When was the last…

Wechat is in no way a competitor to Messenger or WhatsApp.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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post #143

Reels isn’t going to compete with TikTok in any real way for a few simple reasons. First and foremost, as a non-Instagram user, I flat-out can’t use it. A while back, when I was curious about TikTok, I downloaded it and was instantly swiping through a video feed that was already getting customized for me. I downloaded Instagram this morning and was presented with a wall to create an account. Nope. Second, TikTok is n…

Account creation is so damn outdated. With device fingerprinting you don't need an account to know who is who, and with algorithms pinpointing interests you don't have to ask anything about age / sex / etc. You can figure it all out in a few sessions.

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I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn't figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry. At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an entirely new service --Tik…

> Once a social platform is around long enough, it becomes the thing that old people use (since its original users grow older with it) I think this is true, but it's worth also considering the factor of how well a platform is able to keep its users segregated into their own echo chambers wherein they feel as though the platform as a whole meets their standard of what is hip and cool Take Instagram for example. Ten ye…

I wonder if they use IG because there isn't any alternative.

Let's say that someday there is a new "teenstagram" launched, and they paid some teenager influencers to drop content there and some cool kids to use and promote it.

In my experience as teens, "it's uncool to use a same platform as the one your grandma use".

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It seems like Instagram is Facebook's anti-competitive tool. Whenever some new social network crops up, Facebook bolts on a clone to Instagram. Eventually it's going to be such a bloated mess it's going to cease being useful to anyone.

Might simply be due to IG's popularity vs Blue app... If there's ever an exodus from IG I don't know what they'll do (probably try to buy the other company).

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Instagram is what it always was for Facebook: a clear sign of the decline of Facebook’s original product into irrelevance while it slowly mutates into infinite town square forums trapped in valley of echoing stupidity and a less anonymous craigslist/gumtree. The Instagram acquisition was the first clear sign Facebook never could innovate it could only steal and perfect existing ideas. Now they decided that outright c…

Facebook came out with the Oculus Quest last year which is hugely innovative.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Instagram is what it always was for Facebook: a clear sign of the decline of Facebook’s original product into irrelevance while it slowly mutates into infinite town square forums trapped in valley of echoing stupidity and a less anonymous craigslist/gumtree. The Instagram acquisition was the first clear sign Facebook never could innovate it could only steal and perfect existing ideas. Now they decided that outright c…

Facebook came out with the Oculus Quest last year which is hugely innovative.

You could say that evolved out of the "buying" era as the above commenter said, as Oculus was an acquisition.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok however is the opposite of WeChat where the interface is dead simple and intuitive. What is Reels immitating here?

Facebook is in the slow process of finally dying. Their ownership of Instagram is sustaining them for the time being, but they are now desperate to steal some market share away from Reddit, TikTok, and WeChat. Facebook is far more desperate than they're letting on publicly. They have already been on the decline for multiple years; the competition is now finally speeding that process up dramatically. When was the last…

>tldr; Facebook is finally coming to an end. Their executives know this better than anyone, so they're scrambling to pick up as many scraps as they can in order to delay the inevitable.

Facebook is the Microsoft Office of social networking.. at least in "coolness" factor. Folks under 25, 30ish years old, pretty much only use it because they have to, not because they want to. WhatsApp is in a similar boat amongst young folk within the United States and Canada. Instagram really is Facebook's only social network that has any kind of cachet with this demographic.

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