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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by wolco »

Widow wrote: post #38
mitchdoogle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

Google has an incredible walled garden of apps and things that 'just' work together seamlessly. I remember switching from FF to Chrome years ago as Chrome was measurably faster. The staying power was using Google's entire suite of apps with Chrome. Things like copying and pasting without formatting or searching for strings all contribute to stickiness.

Chrome opens up files and slows everything down windows 7.

Using chrome once it loads with everything else shutdown seems fast.

Firefox is overall faster because of those issues. But firefox will use too much memory and kill itself in time. But has gotten better at killing itself without killing everything else.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by Chirael »

Widow wrote: post #38
mitchdoogle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

Google has an incredible walled garden of apps and things that 'just' work together seamlessly. I remember switching from FF to Chrome years ago as Chrome was measurably faster. The staying power was using Google's entire suite of apps with Chrome. Things like copying and pasting without formatting or searching for strings all contribute to stickiness.

I use Google apps in Edge, and nothing else in Edge. I use Firefox for all other web browsing, and avoid doing anything Google related in Firefox. I won't install Chrome on my machine at all and don't need to - Edge is good enough, now that it's Chromium-based.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

formerly_proven wrote: post #136
typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

You can install Adblock and Firefox Focus, both of which install a content blocking module you can enable in Safari (you have to switch them on manually).

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by godelski »

nitrogen wrote: post #147
formerly_proven wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

The only downside is that product managers who rely on third-party analytics to decide what platforms are relevant will never see Firefox+uBlock users as relevant. I've had to argue this at multiple companies; fortunately at some places multiple developers used uBlock so it wasn't as hard as making the case alone.

> fortunately at some places multiple developers used uBlock so it wasn't as hard as making the case alone.

Is adblocking not common? Every tech literate person I know uses an ad blocker. I'd say about 30-40% of millennials I know use them, most using ADB or uBlock Origin.

Every time I see someone using a browser with ads I forget what a nightmare the internet is.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by Semaphor »

twblalock wrote: post #131
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

I have several reasons for not using Firefox: Font rendering looks non-native on most platforms. Scrolling behavior seems non-native on most platforms. The combined location/search bar seems slower, and gives less useful results, than the same feature in other browsers. Inferior developer tools. Mozilla's marketing portraying itself as the white knight of the open web is tiresome and contradicted by past behavior. Po…

> Inferior developer tools.

Very much an opinion, I prefer the Firefox dev tools, especially with the recent changes.

And while I can’t speak for other OS, scrolling and font rendering looks native on Windows and has for years.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by hosteur »

htwyford wrote: post #148
formerly_proven wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

> This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock. You can block ads in Safari iOS with a Content Blocker. 1Blocker is pretty robust: https://1blocker.com/ Firefox for iOS also has Tracking Protection built in, which blocks most ads.

does not seem to be open source. Why is it trustworthy of my entire browsing history?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by winter_blue »

typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

I've gone back and forth between Firefox and Chrome.

It's just that Firefox is noticeably slower than Chrome (or at least was about a year ago). Even simply switching between open tabs around what feels like 0.5 seconds, whereas on Chrome, tab switching is instantaneous. I've run Firefox in multi-process mode (since that was an option), but even with it, in general it seems like Firefox gets noticeably slower than Chrome when you have a lot of open tabs. I've always preferred and wanted to use Firefox over Chrome, but the performance degradation was too much to bear.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by kroltan »

godelski wrote: post #155
nitrogen wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only downside is that product managers who rely on third-party analytics to decide what platforms are relevant will never see Firefox+uBlock users as relevant. I've had to argue this at multiple companies; fortunately at some places multiple developers used uBlock so it wasn't as hard as making the case alone.

> fortunately at some places multiple developers used uBlock so it wasn't as hard as making the case alone. Is adblocking not common? Every tech literate person I know uses an ad blocker. I'd say about 30-40% of millennials I know use them, most using ADB or uBlock Origin. Every time I see someone using a browser with ads I forget what a nightmare the internet is.

Not everywhere, I'd say it's common within specific crowds.

At my company people are either don't know about them, or actually fundamentally disagree with their purpose. (No, it's not an AdTech company, before anyone asks)

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