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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by catalogia »

jimmaswell wrote: post #39
vikbytes wrote: post #15

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

What cookies are you trying to get rid of? Why are they a big deal?

You've got it completely backwards. Invert your questions: What cookies shouldn't be deleted, and why shouldn't they be deleted? The continued existence of a cookie requires justification, not the deletion of a cookie. Only a small minority of cookies exist for the users' benefit.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by wolco »

twblalock wrote: post #131
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

I have several reasons for not using Firefox: Font rendering looks non-native on most platforms. Scrolling behavior seems non-native on most platforms. The combined location/search bar seems slower, and gives less useful results, than the same feature in other browsers. Inferior developer tools. Mozilla's marketing portraying itself as the white knight of the open web is tiresome and contradicted by past behavior. Po…

What platform are you using?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by markn951 »

formerly_proven wrote: post #136
typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

?????????

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wipr/id1030595027 Or like, any similar app. There's hundreds of them.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by mrandish »

colordrops wrote: post #52

Off topic, but every time I see an article like this I load up Firefox and try it out to see how it has progressed. I inevitably stop using it, and this time I decided to introspect and see why. It turns out that it's mouse wheel scrolling doesn't feel as snappy as other browsers, and for some reason it bothers me a lot. I'm going to try changing the scroll wheel settings and see if I can stick with it.

I am super-sensitive to smooth scrolling performance and am kind of obsessive about it. I use FF 100% of the time (unless testing something cross-browser) with an extension called "Yet Another Smooth Scrolling WE" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yass-we/

If you spend a bit of time exploring the extension's options you should be able to find a combination that hits your personal 'sweet spot'. I've also found that really dialing in consistent smooth scrolling performance can require optimizing other factors including: OS settings, mouse software driver settings (I use Logitech Options), video card options (VSync especially) and even monitor options (often disabling motion 'enhancement' modes) because the end result is only as good as the whole stack.

It can help to ensure your hardware has sufficient performance to maintain your desired scrolling performance even when multi-tasking and the browser loading website with a bunch of JS and assets, especially on laptops and wireless connections. UMatrix helps block a lot of these loads.

If you have intermittent variable results, another thing to check is other FF extensions. I run quite a few extensions to customize my experience and have run across a couple (unrelated to scrolling, screen or visual appearance) that make scrolling performance on some sites inconsistent during background page load, perhaps some rare interaction of threads. Fortunately, none of them were any of the popular ones or ones I find essential.

I don't think it's possible to achieve truly 'perfect' scrolling behavior 100% of the time on all sites yet, at least I haven't been able to on any desktop browser or hardware combo I've tried. Currently, I'm quite happy with my FF configuration as all the sites I visit regularly perform very well and >95% of one-off sites do also.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by nitrogen »

formerly_proven wrote: post #136
typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

The only downside is that product managers who rely on third-party analytics to decide what platforms are relevant will never see Firefox+uBlock users as relevant. I've had to argue this at multiple companies; fortunately at some places multiple developers used uBlock so it wasn't as hard as making the case alone.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by htwyford »

formerly_proven wrote: post #136
typon wrote: post #130

My friend who works in an adtech company: "Protip: Use Firefox instead of Chrome. We get very little data from Firefox users"

Even less data if you use uBlock Origin and possibly uMatrix (which is very high maintenance, but also reveals the utter insanity of the web). Without an adblocker the internet is such a slow heap of trash that I'd never go back to not using one. This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

> This is also one of the main reasons I use my iPhone so little, since it doesn't really have any way to adblock.

You can block ads in Safari iOS with a Content Blocker. 1Blocker is pretty robust: https://1blocker.com/

Firefox for iOS also has Tracking Protection built in, which blocks most ads.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by parsimo2010 »

eklavya wrote: post #144

I wish Apple realised that more competition in browsers on iOS is better for the user and they shouldn’t be greedy about it. How wonderful would it be to have proper Firefox in iOS.

I use Firefox on iOS. It has some tracking protection. Probably not the full-fat version of desktop Firefox, but I find it to be more tolerable than Safari on iOS.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by nitrogen »

symlinkk wrote: post #138
Shacklz wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but somehow, news sites have a video that plays This is so annoying, engaging in such obviously obnoxious UX patterns should be regulated and punished with fines when user-intent tries to be circumvented. The "just dont visit that website lol"-trope really doesn't cut it anymore; operating a news paper organization nowadays is such a cutthroat business that you simply can't not do it if your competition does it, th…

It’s the free market working as intended - if most people cared, the first site to stop doing auto playing videos would get more traffic and other sites would follow. As of right now, the benefit of auto playing videos outweighs the cost of pissing off the few users who care.

The free market is the best algorithm for hill-climbing a society into feudalism, one A/B test at a time.
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