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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by Santosh83 »

mancerayder wrote: post #104

I'm happy to see stuff like this. I'd be even happier if the tricks to get video to play were somehow canceled. I have adblocker and video blockers, but somehow, news sites have a video that plays. If I scroll off the page, the video pops out into the lower right hand of the page and resumes playing, even if the big version of the video at the top of the page was stopped /paused (which it is by default), and it needs…

Indeed am seeing more and more sites that somehow get their videos to autoplay even though I have that explicitly disabled in Firefox settings. I thought user agents had ultimate control over 'mere bytes' sent over the wire but somehow these sites manage to trick the browser and override user preferences.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by cgs »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #31
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

I've had issues with audio on Apple TV glitching out on Firefox. Only thing I use Chrome for

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by clairity »

untog wrote: post #100
clairity wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it seems the objection is to unearned affiliate revenue (for any purchases at amazon for some period just for visiting wirecutter), not earned affiliate revenue (by clicking on a product you intend to buy), which is consistent and fair.

From what the OP said I don't think that's the case. They're specifically talking about clicking on links not working.

i read it as links between pages on wirecutter, not out (i haven't tested if theres actually an interstitial affiliate marker page though).

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by encom »

mataug wrote: post #107
input_sh wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More details here[0], but in short, they'll "block them" by deleting cookies and site data of redirect trackers every 24h, preventing long term profile building, while not breaking the redirects. There's also a "Google search link fix" recommended extension that fixes those URLs (replaces https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c... to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday in your example). Also ava…

Deleting redirect cookies is a wonderful step forward in improving privacy. I'm now concerned that companies would attempt to circumvent this by profiling users via fingerprinting through canvas, screen resolution, user agent and other means. I wonder how such profiling can be minimized / eliminated ?

I've disabled canvas for all sites. I don't notice a lot of breakage, so it seems it's primarily used for fingerprinting.

The only place I've whitelisted is Youtube, because of course Google is spying on you, and won't let you watch Youtube unless you allow them.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by calmworm »

mancerayder wrote: post #104

I'm happy to see stuff like this. I'd be even happier if the tricks to get video to play were somehow canceled. I have adblocker and video blockers, but somehow, news sites have a video that plays. If I scroll off the page, the video pops out into the lower right hand of the page and resumes playing, even if the big version of the video at the top of the page was stopped /paused (which it is by default), and it needs…

... then when you do manage to tap/click the X, on some sites it says "closing video..." for 3 more seconds before it closes. Also very annoying.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by calmworm »

tome wrote: post #109
mancerayder wrote: post #104

I'm happy to see stuff like this. I'd be even happier if the tricks to get video to play were somehow canceled. I have adblocker and video blockers, but somehow, news sites have a video that plays. If I scroll off the page, the video pops out into the lower right hand of the page and resumes playing, even if the big version of the video at the top of the page was stopped /paused (which it is by default), and it needs…

Isn't the small video in the corner a feature actually implemented in Firefox itself (picture-in-picture) and nothing to do with the web page? If so then that seems doubly bad!

Firefox doesn't force it. The feature is that you have the option to pull the embedded video into a non static location within your browser window.

So you could allow the video to play in view while you scroll through the remainder of the page.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by floatingatoll »

atombender wrote: post #26

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds. For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those. The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

If you haven't already, please consider opening up a Webcompat issue [1] about this. They'll definitely want to know since that's the sort of scenario that could end up breaking in multiple browsers — not just Firefox! — as tracking protection spreads across the ecosystem.

[1] https://webcompat.com/issues/new

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by subhro »

andrewshadura wrote: post #120
subhro wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, what's wrong with Safari, that you can not trust it?

It's not open source, how can you trust it?

I thought Webkit, the core engine is open source. Or, are you saying Webkit != Safari?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by boogies »

encom wrote: post #124
mataug wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deleting redirect cookies is a wonderful step forward in improving privacy. I'm now concerned that companies would attempt to circumvent this by profiling users via fingerprinting through canvas, screen resolution, user agent and other means. I wonder how such profiling can be minimized / eliminated ?

I've disabled canvas for all sites. I don't notice a lot of breakage, so it seems it's primarily used for fingerprinting. The only place I've whitelisted is Youtube, because of course Google is spying on you, and won't let you watch Youtube unless you allow them.

> course Google is spying on you, and won't let you watch Youtube unless you allow them

Or circumvent their restrictions with eg. Invidious or youtube-dl

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