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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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untog wrote: post #73
xref wrote: post #68

Hopefully this will make affiliate-link based sites like Wirecutter change their ways. I dont mind them earning affiliate money but I can’t even click a link at Wirecutter anymore since their bounce redirect to Amazon or wherever is totally blocked by my DNS settings originally via AdGuard now via nextdns.io

Can you add an exception for the site? It seems like a slightly inconsistent position that you don't mind them earning affiliate money yet you're actively blocking them from doing so.

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by jackson1442 »

gen220 wrote: post #46
mitchdoogle wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

For me, there are only subtle differences. I use Chrome for work (golden browser for our web apps) and FF personally. Google maps has never worked well for me on FF. The "old"/basic interface for Gmail works fine, but the new one was noticeably slower. It doesn't seem exclusive to Google, however. Many PWA sites (including bank websites!) have, from time to time, inexplicably failed to load certain elements on FF, wh…

I’ve personally found that the new gmail interface is simply awful on every browser, just a little less awful on Chrome.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by sedatk »

noahtallen wrote: post #71
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

FF’s UX around things not related to browsing is slightly worse on all platforms. It’s most obvious on iOS where some of the styles for your “library” just don’t work correctly on iPhone 10’s. I also think their model for managing non-browsing stuff is too complex comparatively. To access many things like history and bookmarks, you need to use the dropdown menu on the right, which has like 30 different options in it,…

Firefox is especially bad in download UX. The “something is downloading” animation isn’t noticeable enough, causing me to click on download links multiple times and wondering why it didn’t work.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by shock »

bishalb wrote: post #49
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

I would use it regularly if it weren't noticably slower than Chrome and in many cases unresponsive (I get the yellow bar at the top that says site isn't responding or something like that, when the same site opens fine on chrome). I have the developer edition installed and am logged in via alternate profiles on some sites there. Often times, it displays a blank for a few seconds on heavy sites(with just 2 tabs open) b…

If you are a developer, I encourage you to create a test case that reproduces the issue reliably and then profile Firefox in that test case. If you feel a bit apprehensive about doing so, it is worth mentioning that profiling Firefox is not terribly hard and you can share the profile with Firefox developers.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by clairity »

untog wrote: post #73
xref wrote: post #68

Hopefully this will make affiliate-link based sites like Wirecutter change their ways. I dont mind them earning affiliate money but I can’t even click a link at Wirecutter anymore since their bounce redirect to Amazon or wherever is totally blocked by my DNS settings originally via AdGuard now via nextdns.io

Can you add an exception for the site? It seems like a slightly inconsistent position that you don't mind them earning affiliate money yet you're actively blocking them from doing so.

it seems the objection is to unearned affiliate revenue (for any purchases at amazon for some period just for visiting wirecutter), not earned affiliate revenue (by clicking on a product you intend to buy), which is consistent and fair.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by fireattack »

weaksauce wrote: post #67
colordrops wrote: post #52

Off topic, but every time I see an article like this I load up Firefox and try it out to see how it has progressed. I inevitably stop using it, and this time I decided to introspect and see why. It turns out that it's mouse wheel scrolling doesn't feel as snappy as other browsers, and for some reason it bothers me a lot. I'm going to try changing the scroll wheel settings and see if I can stick with it.

that's funny because in chrome i hate the scrolling because it doesn't have the middle mouse click autoscroll feature and all the "solutions" to fix that are janky webextensions.

Chrome has autoscroll here, on Windows.

What platform do you use?

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by fireattack »

sedatk wrote: post #85
noahtallen wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FF’s UX around things not related to browsing is slightly worse on all platforms. It’s most obvious on iOS where some of the styles for your “library” just don’t work correctly on iPhone 10’s. I also think their model for managing non-browsing stuff is too complex comparatively. To access many things like history and bookmarks, you need to use the dropdown menu on the right, which has like 30 different options in it,…

Firefox is especially bad in download UX. The “something is downloading” animation isn’t noticeable enough, causing me to click on download links multiple times and wondering why it didn’t work.

At least they recently added the animation back.

It was nearly invisible for quite a long period.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by megous »

mitchdoogle wrote: post #31
tdhz77 wrote: post #23

I keep encouraging people to use Firefox over the others. My efforts keep failing. Mozilla’s focus on privacy is important and should be to others. People have been burned in the past and are willing to give up privacy for something that just works. The irony.

Do people think Firefox doesn't work? I've noticed zero difference between using Firefox and Chrome and I've used both daily for five years or so.

They didn't manage to fix developer tools for like last 5-7 releases (despite multiple reports of it being broken). Network tab still messes up/merges unrelated requests together, and style editor shows completely garbage content every other reload, like this (probably related issue to the request confusion):

https://megous.com/dl/tmp/33d9622c7e53e3bc.png

https://megous.com/dl/tmp/8b3e50856a913236.png

I still use it as a primary browser even for development, but with issues like this being unresolved for almost a year, it's really hard.

Ever since the rewrite in React, it's really bad. First a massive performance regression (which improved over time, thankfully), but it still has major issues like the above.

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