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Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by TruthSHIFT »

snowwrestler wrote: post #38

I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn't figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry. At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an entirely new service --Tik…

A crucial feature of new things is that they are often better. Not all new things beat incumbents. Only the good ones win.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by DrBazza »

wy35 wrote: post #65
DrBazza wrote: post #14

Never used Tiktok, or Instagram, and Facebook just now seems to be nothing more than a feed of irrelevant ads to, and any friends' or family posts are relegated to the little bell icon. I barely look at it more than once every few days now as it has lost much of its utility. Most of my friends and family are on other social networks and sites (twitter, strava, discord) now with fewer, or no ads, or even just whatsapp…

Not exactly sure how your personal experience with a company is really relevant, considering that the article is specifically discussing a new product said company is launching. But transitioning to more intimate forms of social media is a great move, so I'm glad you made the switch. A lot of people do find Facebook (for example) to be too fake, while others need it to keep in touch with their family and communities.

You're right my post isn't that relevant.

The product they are launching, for me, isn't relevant either.

We've long since reached peak Facebook, and its social network is fragmenting as they're losing people for the reasons I mentioned previously. They're effectively chasing a new audience to keep their numbers up.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by galuggus »

tanilama wrote: post #76
alehul wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American who looks at WeChat and sees a massive, unintuitive jumbled mess, you've explained in this comment how that could possibly be so popular in China! I feel foolish for not having realized that the UX must make perfect sense to everyone who has used WeChat since the days of it being a simple communication app. By that logic, I'm not sure we could say quite yet that Instagram's bundling is a mistake.

TikTok however is the opposite of WeChat where the interface is dead simple and intuitive. What is Reels immitating here?

The Chinese version of TikTok douyin is also a hybrid of games, shopping, live streams a messenger and instant apps. The ui is far less important than having a captive user base

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by interestica »

9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #70
alehul wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American who looks at WeChat and sees a massive, unintuitive jumbled mess, you've explained in this comment how that could possibly be so popular in China! I feel foolish for not having realized that the UX must make perfect sense to everyone who has used WeChat since the days of it being a simple communication app. By that logic, I'm not sure we could say quite yet that Instagram's bundling is a mistake.

You're comparing apples to oranges here. WeChat is a "superapp" platform for doing distinct things: chat, payments, ticket bookings, etc. Instagram's features, on the other hand, are all purely social networking.

Nah, I think the comparison was apt. IG's features are not purely social networking. The 'TV' portion is an attempt to create a youtube/video alternative. The video chat can replace phone/video messaging. The 'shop' feature is an e-commerce gateway.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by zoltar »

3pt14159 wrote: post #74
dleslie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What lesson would that be? Facebook is hugely successful.

Yes but it is especially uncool and if it stays uncool it will be a future myspace. Instagram is still ok, but even there. It's sliding. But I think Zuck knows this and buys up enough up and comers to probably stay ahead on enough things.

Feels like it's already the new AOL.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

3pt14159 wrote: post #74
dleslie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What lesson would that be? Facebook is hugely successful.

Yes but it is especially uncool and if it stays uncool it will be a future myspace. Instagram is still ok, but even there. It's sliding. But I think Zuck knows this and buys up enough up and comers to probably stay ahead on enough things.

I find the MySpace comparison tired:

* MySpace, at its peak, had around 75 MM MAU.

* Facebook's core properties (Insta, WhatsApp, Messenger/Big Blue) have around 2.6 billion MAU.

Even if I just consider FB core + Messenger, Facebook is roughly 20x larger than MySpace. Facebook, as a core product, also is growing in non-US markets, even though it has saturated the US markets for years.

MySpace and Facebook just aren't comparable anymore.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by mrkramer »

snowwrestler wrote: post #38

I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn't figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry. At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an entirely new service --Tik…

Ever heard of redesign? Vine needed it. TikTok didn't win against Vine because of it was new. It had better UI, UX, better features better strategy overall.

Somebody could make new Facebook but people wound't move to it cause Facebook has 15 years head start and gigantic social graph.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by reedwolf »

euix wrote: post #64

I find myself never actually using social media. Good friends belong to the same Signal group chats. I have several of these which consists of cliques I have built up over the years in school and at work and that's how I stay in touch. For those that are further out of reach there is email and linkedin if I really need to dig someone up from the past.

You wrote your comment on social media.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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Post by Firebrand »

Reels’ inclusion in Instagram makes the UI confusing for me. Right now it only feeds me three or four videos that are peppered in my discover feed when I scroll down so I have to swipe up to refresh for more videos:

https://imgur.com/a/jDtYbVP

Why not have a separate section dedicated to Reels content instead of having it interspersed with photos and regular video posts?

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