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Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by vikbytes »

Yoric wrote: post #19
vikbytes wrote: post #15

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

> Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once. Is that still the case? I remember that one of the developers was seriously working on improving that.

Yep, still a problem for me last week, deleting entries numbering more than about 300 seems to be the magical breaking point.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

I've been a user since they first split from Netscape. Very happy to see continued efforts in this project. Congrats folks! I'm glad you exist.

Related: I don't know if this applies to other platforms, but the newest version of FireFox on FreeBSD (79.0,1) generates errors on every website you visit stating insufficient security. (including google & mozilla.org) This is somehow related to not having a virus scanner installed or something.

This is the about:config setting to disable that:

network.http.spdy.enabled.http2=false

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ainar-g »

vikbytes wrote: post #15

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

> This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them.

You might like the CookieAutoDelete plugin[1]. It's a recommended plugin which allows you to set a list of domains and domain patterns which retain their cookies while others are deleted. I've been using it for a couple of months now, and I love it.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/cookie-autode...

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by ainar-g »

Yoric wrote: post #19
vikbytes wrote: post #15

This is fantastic. I never liked the cookies sticking around forever, and managing them manually was a massive pain if you wanted to keep some of them. Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once.

> Not to mention Firefox is usually brought to its knees when trying to delete large segments of History/Cookies at once. Is that still the case? I remember that one of the developers was seriously working on improving that.

Yes. The “magic number” seems to be 300 items on my machine. Anything above that will start to seriously freeze the browser.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by atombender »

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds.

For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those.

The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by drewg123 »

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #22

I've been a user since they first split from Netscape. Very happy to see continued efforts in this project. Congrats folks! I'm glad you exist. Related: I don't know if this applies to other platforms, but the newest version of FireFox on FreeBSD (79.0,1) generates errors on every website you visit stating insufficient security. (including google & mozilla.org) This is somehow related to not having a virus scanner in…

I'm running the same version of Firefox on FreeBSD (firefox-79.0,1) and I don't see this (with http2=true). I'm running 13-current (r363668) and using the 12-stable quarterly packages (FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly)

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by duhi88 »

atombender wrote: post #26

I'm a fan of ETP, except it breaks a lot of sites that use embeds. For example, sites that use Twitter or Instagram [1] embeds won't show the embeds. And there's no way, as far as I can tell, to whitelist those. The only solution is to whitelist the sites that have embeds, but that ends up enabling all the tracking and stuff you don't want. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446243

Pretty sure that embeds enable all the tracking stuff you don't want, too.

Re: Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

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Post by jfk13 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #6
dependenttypes wrote: post #5

I never understood this feature. Why not use an addon instead? Ublock origin for example is much better compared to the firefox tracking protection.

Because the default should be to block tracking. We just shouldn't allow it. Imagine someone telling you a popup blocker (something even IE8 had standard) should be acquire separately.

In principle, yes -- we just shouldn't allow it. The problem is that it's technically difficult to block it entirely, and even more difficult to do so without breaking functionality that users want.
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