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1Password for Linux development preview

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Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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What would 1Password add to keepassxc+Dropbox for personal use? It only subtracts from the security. I get that organizations with many users don’t want to deal with database management. For personal use though, keepassxc is fine.

Disaster recovery is simpler with 1P (if you lose your computer and your phone). You just need your 1P credentials instead of your Dropbox credentials and KeePass secret key.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I was a 1Password user from when it was fully self-hosted until they started pulling bait and switch tactics to move people to subscriptions and online vaults[1]. I also had Windows licences, and Windows was certainly a 2nd class citizen while I used 1Password. And of course, it doesn't look like the 1Password Linux client is open source. The back-end certainly isn't. I switched to Keepass[2] initially, synchronised…

I'm also a big fan of Bitwarden. Have tested 1Password, LastPass and a few of the other password managers over the last 5 years. This is the one that ticks all the boxes, has the least bloat, does correct matching. I support it with pleasure!

I tested Bitwarden for a while and found it was lacking features compared to 1Password. Until a few weeks back they didn't even have a "Trash", delete an item and it was gone forever.

Exporting 1Password to Bitwarden was a complete mess, attachments in items were not imported at all/deleted (you don't get a warning of this.)

Bitwarden is okay, but compared to 1Password they have a long way to go in my opinion.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I don’t understand all the subscription hate. Don’t get me wrong. I, too, long for the days of DIY car repair and have a hard drive full of mp3s ripped from CDs (snagged from a Columbia House subscription, no less). But this is just how ~the software~ business works now. Investors want predictable ROI. If your business can’t/won’t show *aaS revenue predictability, investors will take their money somewhere that can.

Well just because that is how a lot of software gets deployed doesn't mean it sucks any less.

I hate subscriptions because the costs adds up very quickly. I try to save more than 50% of my income so having several subs is just not happening.

I'd rather not have any software at all or much crappier alternatives of it rather than paying every month.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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I’ve been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The oldest passwords I’ve got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first created in 2009). It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care, so while I’m not a Linux user, I’d have no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit’s reputation.

Also a longtime user. Did you kick over to their subscription model or have you stuck with the old installs attached to the grandfathered permanent license?

I'm still using the permanent license...and syncing over iCloud, while using the latest versions of the 1Password app, on macOS & iOS.

As soon as this stops working and i'm forced to get a subscription i'm moving to another password manager though. So hopefully one time purchases will remain possible.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Amiga, Atari, Mac OS, MS-DOS, Windows, UNIX, with teams that reached around 10 maximum. How did we ever managed without Electron?!? Man we were 1337!

Tbh, not that many programs with exception of games supported all the platforms. And games were built on top of VMs or engines.

"Engines" like common logic written in languages like C and C++, using in-house toolkits where RenderButton() or ShowDialog() would do the right thing on each platform.

Apparently a forgotten art.

As for VMs, I am all for stuff like React Native, not for packing Chrome with each application.

Not only it shows laziness where Web == ChromeOS, bloats the applications and is yet another way for turning everyone into Chrome developers, bye bye Web.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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post #206

I was a 1Password user from when it was fully self-hosted until they started pulling bait and switch tactics to move people to subscriptions and online vaults[1]. I also had Windows licences, and Windows was certainly a 2nd class citizen while I used 1Password. And of course, it doesn't look like the 1Password Linux client is open source. The back-end certainly isn't. I switched to Keepass[2] initially, synchronised…

I believe you can still self-host if you want. I don't understand how can you be disturbed by offering a cloud service to host your passwords could be bad to switch. I'm happy sub of 1Password and i self-hosted my passwords before for a long time.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently that craftsmanship went astray with the adoption of Electron.

Why the hate for electron? I know that there are a bunch of shitty electron apps out there, but there are also great, fast and leightweight examples. Visual Studio Code is easily one of the best desktop apps I've used (on Windows) and Discord is also built on electron and works very well. Electron isn't necessarily bad, its primarly a matter of how good your implementation is.

1. Performance

2. It encourages developers to ignore platform-specific design idioms and features.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently that craftsmanship went astray with the adoption of Electron.

Why the hate for electron? I know that there are a bunch of shitty electron apps out there, but there are also great, fast and leightweight examples. Visual Studio Code is easily one of the best desktop apps I've used (on Windows) and Discord is also built on electron and works very well. Electron isn't necessarily bad, its primarly a matter of how good your implementation is.

And when we compare it with Notepad++ or Sublime it is quite clear the performance lost in the process.

I only use VSCode for workflows I am obliged to.

Microsoft's React Native team has benchmarks where Electron causes 300x performance drop versus React Native.

Speaking of it,

"Xbox app for PC gets speed boost, ditching Electron for React Native UWP"

https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-app-pc-gets-speed-boost-...

I dream of the day that VSCode gets rebooted into React Native.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently that craftsmanship went astray with the adoption of Electron.

Why the hate for electron? I know that there are a bunch of shitty electron apps out there, but there are also great, fast and leightweight examples. Visual Studio Code is easily one of the best desktop apps I've used (on Windows) and Discord is also built on electron and works very well. Electron isn't necessarily bad, its primarly a matter of how good your implementation is.

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